Sexyy Red, Kendrick Lamar, and Hip Hop's Future

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DJ Sir Daniel: Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast.

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I'm DJ Sir Daniel.

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And my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government

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as Johnny Ray Cornegay the third.

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What's happening, folks?

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DJ Sir Daniel: Listen, Jay Ray, they say the best things in life are free,

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Mmm.

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Ah,

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shade.

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Uh

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DJ Sir Daniel: of Queue Points.

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We are the, the podcast dropping the needle on black music history and,

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um, JRay, so I was on, as I always do, I'm going through my social media feed

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The Jennifer Hudson show posted their latest pre show celebrity tunnel clip.

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If you're all familiar with the pre show tunnel clip is when whoever

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the celebrity guest is they come walking down the the hallway and

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the the the the the the showrunners and the the uh the What are they

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I guess the production team.

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Yeah.

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DJ Sir Daniel: is they they make up a song and they clap the person down the hall

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while they do a little jig down the hall.

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It's really cute.

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It's a signature.

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It's a signature social media post for the Jennifer Hudson show and

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it goes over really well with with.

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everybody.

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So, um, needless to say, I was super surprised when I saw today's feature

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was none other than Get It Sexy.

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Get It Sexy.

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Get It Sexy.

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Sexyy Red was coming down the hallway.

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And in true Sexyy Red fashion, she was being Sexyy Red.

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She had on what I, Derek, she had on what I like to refer to as daytime lingerie.

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Right,

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But outside the house, like not in the bedroom, right?

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DJ Sir Daniel: She was, she was wearing her best daytime lingerie look, coming

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down, and of course, you know, in Sexyy Red fashion, she bent it over and, you

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know, kind of cracked it a little bit.

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And they had to put a heart over it.

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So they censored it.

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So that means know that it's a bit much for the Jennifer Hudson audience.

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Yes.

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DJ Sir Daniel: yeah, so I was just like, when I saw that, I was like,

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um, this is where we doing now?

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This is where we at?

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Okay, so I'm, the question I have for y'all that are already in

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the chat and that are tuning in, because we have a, it's part of the

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larger topic that we have tonight.

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But, Jay Ray, is there anything, do we need to start shaming?

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People just a little bit or is there anything wrong with a little bit

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of shame these it's a little bit

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don't, I don't.

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Yes.

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So it's just a general yes.

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I don't think it is.

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We need to shame people because I don't think I'm gonna speak

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for I, I Johnny or Jay Ray.

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Hey, don't have the ability to just like shame somebody.

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Like, I don't feel like that's my place.

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I don't feel like that's you ain't my child.

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You ain't nobody that I can like,

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DJ Sir Daniel: you ain't mama.

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You ain't none of my

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ain't none of my, you know what I'm saying?

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However, I Jay Ray do have some shame about myself and I'd be like, I am not

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going to go on national television in the middle of the day and do this kind

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of foolishness going down the thing.

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Now, this is not a respectability politics thing.

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Y'all.

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I, sir, Daniel, you know me, I am so liberal, baby.

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You like it.

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I love it.

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It is fine,

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DJ Sir Daniel: we're not policing black women's

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policing, black women, body, Sexyy Red could do

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whatever she wants with her body.

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However, and there's a time and place for stuff and, and on national TV

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going down the, the, the Jennifer Hudson soul train line, where do you

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got to put a heart over the thing?

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DJ Sir Daniel: over the booty here

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seems like, it just seems like it's a bit much.

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And I think Kyriakos and Mark.

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Are kind of echoing the thing that I think I think I get why she's a thing.

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So Kyriakos, I do get why she's a thing.

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I just don't think it's for me.

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It's definitely not for me, but honestly, I don't think it's I don't

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think it should be for a lot of people.

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There's she should come with.

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She should literally walk around with a parental advisory

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label, like over her body.

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DJ Sir Daniel: her body.

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Shout out to Shannon Perez.

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Darby is in the, is in the

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up,

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DJ Sir Daniel: chat.

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And it's so funny that she's in the chat because her, along with her show

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partner, we had a discussion, Tashmika, we had a discussion about this, something

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similar to this earlier last year, as a matter of fact, and it is coming

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around again, where it's almost like.

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Okay, I get it.

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I see where the ladies are going.

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Um, I don't want to make this about hammering that, hammering down the women

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that are in the game that are doing their thing because yes, we know they've

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been carrying the, um, we know that

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hop on their back.

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DJ Sir Daniel: on their backs.

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They've been selling out shows.

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all of that good stuff.

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I think we, Jay Ray and I just recall a time, as a matter of fact, 27

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years ago in the month of February, 27 years ago, Vibe magazine, um,

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February's issue was a double cover

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Yes.

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DJ Sir Daniel: and then it's this double cover featured the top hip

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hop artists, both male and female.

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And this was such an iconic cover because this cover featured, uh, Kim, Lil Kim,

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Missy Elliot, Foxy Brown, Lauren Hill.

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They had their own cover cause they, they separated it by, um, men and women.

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And it was such a dope idea.

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Um, you know, of course we had the brat in the mix.

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You had Trina on the come up.

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You have Rod Diggle on the come up, a mill, all of these different

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flavors of women in hip hop.

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And they were all coexisting, J.

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Ray.

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Now, look at Kim.

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Look,

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DJ Sir Daniel: Kim is in full That ain't daytime

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that's not daytime lingerie

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DJ Sir Daniel: that's nighttime, you know, hardcore La Bella

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Mafia lingerie right there.

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That's Kim doing what Kim does and having a great time doing it.

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And we respect her for it.

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Yes,

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DJ Sir Daniel: But there was a time where, but Kim, Fox

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look at like look at Lauren look at Missy look at Kim look at foxy like

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DJ Sir Daniel: it all, it coexisted together.

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They, everybody had their own flavor and was still selling records,

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winning, winning multiple Grammys, um, and all kinds of awards.

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But now it's just like, uh, what are we doing guys?

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What are, what are we doing here?

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How did we get here?

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How did we get how you got to sing the song?

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DJ Sir Daniel: did we, okay.

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Before we get, before we get kicked off of IG and

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Because you know, Deborah Cox will come on and be like how they said

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how they sounded so good singing my song.

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Right?

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Um, so.

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What I absolutely love about this moment is it's such a

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variety of like styles, right?

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You know what I'm saying?

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Even when we look at the men.

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So you have LL, who by this point is a legitimate veteran, like

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LL is 13 years into his career.

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As part of this cover, right?

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So you got an LL, you have Busta Rhymes, you have Method Man, and

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you have Master P, who's fairly new on the national stage at this time.

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He had been around for a while, but nationally new.

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But let's go back to these women, to that point of like, there was a moment

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in time When Missy, Kim, Lauren, and Foxy could not only be on magazine

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covers together, they were all selling platinum albums at the exact same time

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and were able to do these different flavors of what hip hop was right now.

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Everything is so one note, at least from a commercial.

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We're talking from a commercial standpoint because we can already hear y'all

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like there's a whole lot of rappers.

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There are a whole lot of women who are out here killing the game.

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But commercially we get one type of thing that is currently happening.

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DJ Sir Daniel: And so here's the thing.

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I, you know, I'm rubbing my crystal ball and I'm making a prediction here.

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I'm having a vision like Raven.

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That's so Raven.

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Like, I'm starting to feel like there's going to be a bust.

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There has to

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DJ Sir Daniel: like how the economy is about to bust and they're

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warning that the, the housing, all that stuff is about to bust.

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There's a B, there's about to be a, a bust in what people are going to.

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continue supporting, especially when it comes to female rap, because like

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we said earlier, female rap is pretty much carrying the game on, carrying

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the game on their back right now.

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But I predicted that there's going to be a bust that people aren't going to be.

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As likely to support or things aren't going to get be on the level as they

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were and I could be wrong here This is just me, but I'm starting to see

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well Maybe there might be people are getting desperate desperate

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times call for desperate measures.

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You even got the one young lady What was her

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Who?

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DJ Sir Daniel: She's, now she's in a commercial featuring, uh, covering

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Kaya's My Neck, My Back, but it's for a, a Dove soap commercial.

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You know, the young lady that don't like children on a plane with her,

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that was going, was going head up with T. I. 's grandchildren,

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What's her name?

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Chica?

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DJ Sir Daniel: That's it.

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The one that wanted to fight, um, T.

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I. 's grandchildren.

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Right.

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So now she's doing commercials.

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Singing a variation of My Neck, My Back, because it's hard out

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here, it's hard out here for her, like someone that presents like

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Mm hmm.

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DJ Sir Daniel: and raps like her is not going to be climbing on the charts.

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Yes.

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DJ Sir Daniel: So she's gotta, so even in her own small way, she's kind of

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acquiescing to what the, um, the, the, the marketplace is calling for in her own way.

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But now it's just getting I don't know I think it's kind of getting out of hand

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and there might just be a Blowback and there might just be it's not just gonna

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be the men that aren't selling right?

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They're gonna be declining sales in this whole rap game Completely

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So, um, I want to shout out Kipper, who is also in the

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chat, who said, as with music in general, it will hit the wall, right?

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So it's what happens every time.

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Um, what, what I am, what gives me hope, what gives me hope is that.

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Listen, Rhapsody got her, her first Grammy this year, you know what I'm saying?

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And that woman has been churning out high quality albums for almost a decade

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at this point, if not a decade, right?

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High quality material.

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And it does give me some hope that.

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You know, folks like her.

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So it's not just her out there.

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We have Tiara Wack and some of these other, you know, folks that

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are out there, LaKaylee47, all of these folks out there who are really

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making high quality hip hop, right?

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On the women's side, of course, we know Kendrick literally just reset.

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What men in hip hop are required to do, right?

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I'm sure all of the dudes are sitting there like shaking in their boots about

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DJ Sir Daniel: Now we gotta

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now.

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I got a rap I got a like right.

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DJ Sir Daniel: I Gotta be deep and stuff.

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Oh, man.

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Okay

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Oh Man right, but for the women I feel like that same sort of reset Is,

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you know, on the way where it's just going to be required for them to like,

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to like, you know, pick up the pen again.

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Well, the fortunate thing about women is actually the women have

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kind of been like, all of these women have been rapping, rapping.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

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True.

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just image wise has been a whole other thing, but they've

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generally been like rapping, rapping.

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I think from an image perspective, that's where the bust is going to come.

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Seeing the variety.

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And how women can be presented to us from a commercial standpoint.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Right.

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And you know, and speaking of the Grammys, we would be remiss

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if we did not bring up Dolce,

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Love Dochi!

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Yeah,

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DJ Sir Daniel: like, really cleaned up at the Grammys on her

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first go round and has really done something special with her career.

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And she, you know, she told that line of You know, of being sexy,

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you know, she was, she had a bikini bottom during her Grammy performance.

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But she was up there rapping.

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She raps.

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DJ Sir Daniel: she raps down, like, and she spits.

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And so, is Dolce like the, the final frontier?

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Is she the last hope?

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It's like, but what if you, what if you can't, you can spit, God, God

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forgive me for what I'm about to say.

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What if you spit like Dolce, but you look like Dank?

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I think that's fine, though, right?

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There's always, well, there's other problems with Dank, but the other Dank,

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there's other problems with Dank, though.

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So, the, okay.

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This is actually a really interesting point, sir. Daniel, I think,

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I think we are also at the point in commercial hip hop where

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gimmicks are kind of like some people think they need a gimmick.

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And I think folks look at size now as like a gimmick.

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You know what I'm saying?

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That they can play up.

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So I feel like if somebody was spitting like Dolce, and looked like dank,

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there's an opportunity for them.

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There's a, there's a lane for them.

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I think, you know, uh, uh, uh, who's our homegirl that, that we,

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that, that was, uh, body positivity and she just lost a lot of weight.

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Lizzo!

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Child, that's a shame.

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I couldn't remember that lady's name, honey.

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It's been a while and she's been through a lot.

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But I think Lizzo kind of opened.

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up was possible.

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However, I think here's what it is.

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The gimmicks have to stop, right?

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It's about letting the talent lead.

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And I think if there's anything we can take from this moment,

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taking from Dolce, right?

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Letting your talent lead you, right?

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This is no, like, no, this is what I do.

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If you spit, you spit.

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This is what I do.

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No matter what you look like.

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So I think there would be room, but it's just like, you

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got to lean into what you do.

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DJ Sir Daniel: For sure.

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And shout out to, um, I believe it's Infinite64, uh, wants

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to join in the conversation.

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Please feel free to leave something in the chat.

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Um, that's the quickest way to, to hop in and be heard on the show.

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But I, you know, I think you're right, J. Rey.

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I think we, it's where the gimmicks have to stop and the talent has to lead.

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Um,

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But here's the rub.

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We have, everything now has become so media led where it's like we

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don't care about the music anymore.

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We care about your personal life.

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We care about, you know, your baby father being on trial for shooting at someone.

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We care about your other baby daddy following you around at the, um, during

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the Superbowl because he's stalking you.

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We care about

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This happened.

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I didn't hear about this.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah, that was an offset Cardi B thing.

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Jesus Christ, sir.

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DJ Sir Daniel: but, um, yeah, so those are the things that we,

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that people are showing up for.

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People are showing up for the public meltdowns.

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People are showing up for, you know, how much weight you lost.

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People are showing up for whether or not, you know, your BBL is clockable or not.

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That's the stuff that I think we, we play a role in it as well.

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We play a huge role in it as consumers and No longer, they're

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dictating to us what's hot.

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We're no longer dictating what the culture should represent.

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We're no longer dictating what's fly and what's hot.

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It's being served to us.

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It's being, actually, it's being pushed down our throats,

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whether we know it or not.

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Sir, Daniel.

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I, this leads me to also wonder.

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How important do you think it's going to be important for us to

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get back to like crews and groups?

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I feel like so much of the creativity gets stifled because these

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artists are in their own bubbles.

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You know what I mean?

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Like they don't have like a crew.

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They don't have a crew that they're trying to compete against to rap against.

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It's just them.

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You know what I mean?

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And the people who work with them, but a lot of times it's not just like other

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emcees that you just kind of work with.

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I feel like that creativity, that, that push, that drive to do something really

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does sometimes happen in community.

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And I'm wondering if we've gotten so far away from that.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Mm.

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for a lot of reasons.

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I think, you know, money wise, it's just easier to be a solo act

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because you get to keep it all

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DJ Sir Daniel: Oh, yeah.

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And, uh, uh, big corporations don't want to pay all them people.

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You know what I'm saying?

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They don't want to have to worry about the hassle of it all.

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But I am wondering if that creativity means that we also need to be

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spending more time together as people in rooms like doing stuff.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm

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DJ Sir Daniel: It's quite possible.

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It It's very possible.

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I mean, you mentioned this in a prior episode about the same thing

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about people being separated, about crews being separated and community

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at the very beginning, at the very, um, at the very nexus of this art

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form of hip hop was the thing people.

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joining together in community centers, rec centers, um, battles, all of those

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things, those things were happening.

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But it's like, again, when the corporations came in, they split people

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up because they realized that there is money to be made in separation.

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There's money to be made through contention, battling, even though battling

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was, battling has been around, but it was.

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It was a friendly sport

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It's a sport!

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Like Kendrick talked about.

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He was like, I'm into it for the sport.

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DJ Sir Daniel: for the sport of things.

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So, and, and so, okay.

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So this, this is a perfect place to segue into a break

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Mm hmm.

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DJ Sir Daniel: come back because speaking of Kendrick, I think there's

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a lot of people who don't understand.

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what is, what was going on with the whole Kendrick Drake thing.

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And so therefore they can't understand the halftime performance.

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And so there's a lot of people speaking on things that they don't know about.

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And that's grinding my

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That ain't their place.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Right, that's grinding my gears at this point.

Jay Ray: 00:20:47

So we are going to wrap up this conversation about the ladies and

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hopefully, you know, hopefully the ladies will continue to deliver quality and as

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well as, um, variety in the nearby future.

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But Jay Ray, when we come back.

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We got a couple things to talk about.

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We're going to talk about halftime performances.

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It's the 37th anniversary of one of Spike Lee's most famous movies.

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And um, we also gonna just touch on the ticket situation, you know,

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giddy up for the Cowboy Carter show.

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Anyway, this is Queue Points podcast.

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I'm DJ Sir Daniel,

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I'm Jay Ray, y'all.

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DJ Sir Daniel: and we are dropping the needle on black music history.

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And we will continue to do so on the other side of this break.

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So you don't go nowhere.

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You stay right where you are.

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We'll be right back after this.

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So Jay Ray, you know, we've recently had a string of bad weather . And

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you know who I kept thinking about, especially on the snow days?

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I kept thinking about parents.

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I can't imagine being a parent and having to come up with things like to

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occupy your children's time, but at the same time, they're missing school.

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So you want it to be a productive time as well.

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Luckily, Luckily for all our parents out there, we have a

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Welcome back to Queue Points, the podcast dropping the

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needle on black music history.

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My name is Jay Ray and that is my brother, DJ Sir Daniel.

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We're going to do some shout outs real quick, Sir Daniel.

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So over on Tik Tok, shout out to my girl, Angie, my girl, Angie from

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Detroit is tuning in over there.

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DJ Sir Daniel: What up though?

Jay Ray: 00:23:26

what up doe?

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Adam actually is over there on from Detroit to talking about what up though.

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So Detroit is on tick tock, checking us out.

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You know what I mean?

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So shout out to y'all and shout out to everyone who is joining us, um,

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on YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram.

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We appreciate y'all so much.

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Shout us out.

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Let us know where you're tuning in from.

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Sir, Dan, yo, we got a couple other topics

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DJ Sir Daniel: we sure do.

Jay Ray: 00:23:52

It's so funny that Detroit is in the building cause they got

Jay Ray: 00:23:54

a whole doll battle going on in

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yes, it's I which I was just like what's happening

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DJ Sir Daniel: we battling over dolls

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Right

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DJ Sir Daniel: But please go ahead.

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So upcoming so in terms of this Sunday this past Sunday

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DJ Sir Daniel: hmm.

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There was a concert that had a football game.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah.

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There was a concert that had a football game.

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Fortunately, Philadelphia Eagles won.

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I live in Chester.

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So shout out to the

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Eagles.

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DJ Sir Daniel: to the home team.

Jay Ray: 00:24:24

Yeah, but within, you know, so that was one thing.

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But the big thing was the record breaking.

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Half time show, um, by one, um, Kendrick Lamar.

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DJ Sir Daniel: That wasn't, that wasn't record breaking.

Jay Ray: 00:24:39

He wasn't more popular than Usher.

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That wasn't, nah, nah, nah,

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According to the numbers, y'all, I, listen, I didn't make it up.

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I, I've only looked at the reporting.

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I don't know if all the reporting from reputable sources is wrong,

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but apparently it was a record breaking half time display.

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How, in addition, though, Sir Daniel,

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It was culturally relevant.

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That was the thing that I think for me was most important.

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My fear was, so here's my fear going in.

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I'm like, they done booked Kendrick Lamar for this halftime show.

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And he gonna have to not do what needs to be done.

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You know what I mean?

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Because that is what They will require.

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I was wrong.

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So when the, when the, apparently when the, I guess it was the owner

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or the head of the NFL was like, Kendrick could do whatever he wants.

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They literally let that man kind of do whatever he wants.

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I'm like, Oh, you, you really are doing this.

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And thank you for putting black culture, black men together on that

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field to speak to our experience.

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So.

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That's a thing that happened this week.

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DJ Sir Daniel: It sure did.

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Let's see.

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Sunday was what?

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Five?

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No.

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Let's math.

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Sunday,

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Sunday was a four day.

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Oh, yeah

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about four days ago,

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DJ Sir Daniel: Four days ago.

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People are still talking about it, Jay Ray.

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That's when you know, you hit that's what you know

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DJ Sir Daniel: They are still talking and people, not only are

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they still talking about it, but some people are a little butt hurt

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over the fact that it took place.

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Their butt hurt, hurt over the fact that it was Kendrick.

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First of all.

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First of all, they're salty because of course he did perform they

Jay Ray: 00:26:38

not like us, which is con is a controversial song of the summer.

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They are.

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You know, they're salty just because, oh, they're salty because, what did

Jay Ray: 00:26:49

the young lady say from England?

Jay Ray: 00:26:51

When I, when I watch The Hat Times, I do not want to think.

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I want to be entertained.

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That's

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DJ Sir Daniel: want, I don't want to think.

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I want to, and you know what?

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for you

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DJ Sir Daniel: Good for you, but you're going to get,

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you're going to get knowledge.

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You're going to get

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You're going to get this word, you're going to get better

Jay Ray: 00:27:08

knowledge, you're getting with the people you need to get with.

Jay Ray: 00:27:11

DJ Sir Daniel: And unfortunately, sis, that's what's going to happen.

Jay Ray: 00:27:15

Um, that's what happened with the Kendrick Lamar show.

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Um, I think that, and I really, this will be the only time you hear us talk about

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it, cause we're not going to go on for.

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Weeks talking about this thing

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But you can invite us on to your, to other platforms.

Jay Ray: 00:27:30

If you want us to come on at Wax Poetic about, there's so much we

Jay Ray: 00:27:33

could talk about, invite us on.

Jay Ray: 00:27:35

We won't do that over here, but we'll come over to your, your platform.

Jay Ray: 00:27:38

So if you want to have Queue Points come over, let us know.

Jay Ray: 00:27:41

DJ Sir Daniel: That's fair I'm not but I'm not arguing about who's the

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biggest star between Kendrick and Drake

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Oh, I'm not having that conversation.

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DJ Sir Daniel: we that's dead I'll leave that to those other

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podcasts and But what was I saying?

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It's just The idea so yes, so the young lady was saying she doesn't want to think

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we just want to you know Have a good show and then there's this argument about

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Whether or not that was the worst, um, Super Bowl halftime performance ever.

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And that's being said by people on the right wing.

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Of course, you know, Fox and Friends, they're gonna say that because,

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well, you know, um, there were a lot of, it was, it was culturally

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aware, and they can't stand when we do things that are culturally aware.

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And where we do things that are, well, you know, their favorite word woke,

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they can't stand anything that's woke.

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And I had to, I had to sit back and think about, we see a cleansing already.

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This administration is already doing a cleansing.

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of anything cultural or anything that would cause you to think or

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have any kind of critical thinking skills, another scary word.

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There's a, they're being, they're being cleansed out.

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You see the Kennedy Center is, um, purging.

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People are leaving.

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Issa Rae is leaving.

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Um, somebody else, um, publicly said that

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Rhimes, step down.

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DJ Sir Daniel: yes.

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So, we're seeing things, we're seeing that people, there's

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gonna be a, a a very Stark line.

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This is not an this is not an invisible line.

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This is not a scrimmage line See I gave y'all a football term.

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This is not a scrimmage.

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This is not imaginary a real line is being drawn Between people, between people that

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want to exchange ideas and uphold history, teach history, exchange knowledge.

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And then there's the other half that wants to just completely control narratives,

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control information, and control thoughts.

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And so I think what This performance did on a grander scheme is it exposed

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and made that line very, very visible.

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And it just is like a starting point of more foolishness to come with

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the administration that we have in office now and just the world and just

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the world in general, like they're thinkers and they're non thinkers.

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Listen, Toni Morrison, um, there's the great, uh, Toni

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Morrison in 1975 did this talk at, I think, Portland State, I believe

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is where that talk took place.

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It gets sampled all the time.

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People are always pulling from that, that conversation.

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But one of the things she talked about was how when people When racism, when

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people want to take control, they start erasing your culture, right?

Jay Ray: 00:30:44

DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

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Can't let you have it, because what, when you start being

Jay Ray: 00:30:47

able to think, when you start being able to see, it creates imagination,

Jay Ray: 00:30:51

DJ Sir Daniel: have pride.

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You have pride, and you suddenly, all of a sudden, you don't want to

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do what they want you to do, right?

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So, I think we're definitely at that point.

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It is not surprising that what we're seeing happen, in particular with

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the Kennedy Center, is happening.

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Um, what I think we must do, and what Kendrick was, to your point, really

Jay Ray: 00:31:20

making sure that we know that we have to do, is we have to do this.

Jay Ray: 00:31:25

We gotta come here and do Queue Points every week.

Jay Ray: 00:31:30

DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

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We have to.

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This is our work.

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We can't let this history go untold because it will be erased.

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We are the people that hold the history.

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If we don't talk about it, the people that hold the history will pass on and

Jay Ray: 00:31:46

it will be, where is it going to be?

Jay Ray: 00:31:50

DJ Sir Daniel: It's a battle between culture and corporation.

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And it just so happens that I saw a clip today that spoke to this

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conversation that we're having now and It comes from somebody

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that I admired so much growing up.

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And even though, you know, he's had a few hiccups in, in his career too.

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And some things that we chose not to speak about or that are, have

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not been spoken about, but KRS One.

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Um, was on with, what's my

Jay Ray: 00:32:26

Be real.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Be Real from Cypress Hill and told me, gave an

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anecdote of a, uh, something that happened that speaks volumes to

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what we were talking about tonight.

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And we just want to run this clip for you because I think it drives the point home.

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I agree.

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So y'all, this point, this clip is long, but it's perfect.

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And it's Chris.

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So just check it out.

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And we, you know what I mean?

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And we gonna, uh, come back and talk about it.

Jay Ray: 00:37:36

Yeah.

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DJ Sir Daniel: That, I, there's no way, no other, there was a better way that that

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could have capsulized Everything that is going on today, whether it's Kendrick's

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performance, whether it's the battle between him and Drake, whether it's, um,

Jay Ray: 00:37:58

whether or not we have black history or not, or can we, we can say it out loud,

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there is a war on culture right now.

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Corporations.

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are making it known that they are here to take over everything,

Jay Ray: 00:38:14

but choices have to be made.

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Choices have to be made, like intention, moving with intention

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has to be done in order for people to, in order for culture to survive.

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And that's the bottom line.

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It's like.

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We're going to see, we're going to see people, we're going to

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see who's real and who's not.

Jay Ray: 00:38:39

We're going to see who's for the culture and who's not.

Jay Ray: 00:38:42

We're going to see people that will, you know, a term that's going to come back up

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is what we used to say back in the day.

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People are going, you're going to see who's a sellout and who's not.

Jay Ray: 00:38:51

It's going to be so apparent.

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And the people that lead with money.

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And seeing how much money they have or flashing money.

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We can pretty much surmise that those are the ones that aren't

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on the side of corporate and corporations and not the culture.

Jay Ray: 00:39:10

Yeah.

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And the thing about this is, in, in, in full transparency, and I'm sure Sir Daniel

Jay Ray: 00:39:16

will be cool with me just talking about this, like, internal to CuePoints, we've

Jay Ray: 00:39:22

been having this conversation, right?

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Deciding where, where the line is, right?

Jay Ray: 00:39:29

And when we, we literally just like two weeks ago said, we can't do that.

Jay Ray: 00:39:36

It was, and that was what?

Jay Ray: 00:39:37

Like 5, 000?

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5, 000. We need that 5, 000.

Jay Ray: 00:39:42

Let's be

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very clear.

Jay Ray: 00:39:44

Should we monetize here?

Jay Ray: 00:39:46

We need this right.

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To be able to keep doing what it is that we do.

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This is not a cheap thing to do.

Jay Ray: 00:39:52

Right.

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But it was like, and it was user day.

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It was like, yeah, but we can't.

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And you were like, you're right.

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We can't.

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We cannot, we gotta, we gotta make these choices.

Jay Ray: 00:40:07

Right.

Jay Ray: 00:40:07

And so it you're absolutely right, sir. Daniel, like it is going to become really,

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really apparent and y'all big and small.

Jay Ray: 00:40:19

We have to decide who we are, like, who, what we, what we going

Jay Ray: 00:40:24

to do and what we not going to do.

Jay Ray: 00:40:26

And we going to stand on what we, we going to stand on who we are.

Jay Ray: 00:40:29

DJ Sir Daniel: So perfect place to bring this up and I hope we don't

Jay Ray: 00:40:32

get stung too, too bad by the beehive because the beehive is buzzing.

Jay Ray: 00:40:37

Um, is Are we seeing the Cowboy Carter concert series, the Chitlin Circuit tour

Jay Ray: 00:40:45

Stop it!

Jay Ray: 00:40:47

DJ Sir Daniel: No, that's what it's called, the Chitlin

Jay Ray: 00:40:48

Oh, is that what it's

Jay Ray: 00:40:49

called?

Jay Ray: 00:40:50

DJ Sir Daniel: hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:40:51

Which I adore.

Jay Ray: 00:40:51

I like the fact that it's called the Chitlin Circuit because it pays homage.

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But people are complaining about the prices.

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And, you know, again, this is a business.

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Um.

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There's a lot, and now we probably could have a whole discussion about this alone,

Jay Ray: 00:41:07

but it's, it falls in line with what we're talking about, is, we know people

Jay Ray: 00:41:13

are in the business to make money, but should Is it, is it, are these prices tone

Jay Ray: 00:41:21

deaf, you know, eggs or concert tickets,

Jay Ray: 00:41:27

That's literally the choices we have to make nowadays.

Jay Ray: 00:41:30

DJ Sir Daniel: have to make

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choices we have to make.

Jay Ray: 00:41:32

DJ Sir Daniel: and not saying that, um, the artist is responsible

Jay Ray: 00:41:37

for making those ticket prices.

Jay Ray: 00:41:38

I don't, I don't know.

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Uh, I'm, I'm very curious if anybody has any insight to how

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ticket prices are calculated.

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We would love to hear about it.

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It's, it's a combination.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Okay, so it is

Jay Ray: 00:41:52

it's, it's it's definitely a combination.

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Because, it, it, it, it, it.

Jay Ray: 00:41:56

The, the, the, the team,

Jay Ray: 00:41:59

DJ Sir Daniel: Uh huh.

Jay Ray: 00:42:00

if you are working at that level, there are people who work for

Jay Ray: 00:42:03

you who do all of that stuff, right?

Jay Ray: 00:42:06

Um, I, I cannot imagine that she's in like a conference room where

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that conversation is happening.

Jay Ray: 00:42:14

It's more just people get paid to make those decisions, right?

Jay Ray: 00:42:18

Um, I think the co I think the conversation that we're having is twofold.

Jay Ray: 00:42:26

It's much like the conversation earlier is Sexyy Red.

Jay Ray: 00:42:29

Um, This is, I want people to experience their joy, and I want people to

Jay Ray: 00:42:35

have the best experiences possible.

Jay Ray: 00:42:38

And you know what?

Jay Ray: 00:42:39

We know that that tour is going to be beautiful and amazing and all the things.

Jay Ray: 00:42:45

I think the question is, to that point of, is this the

Jay Ray: 00:42:49

time to do something like that?

Jay Ray: 00:42:52

Right?

Jay Ray: 00:42:54

Is this the time to do that?

Jay Ray: 00:42:56

There could be a whole lot of ways to tour.

Jay Ray: 00:42:58

There's a whole lot of ways to tour right and and show up right

Jay Ray: 00:43:03

but We are in a moment right now,

Jay Ray: 00:43:09

and I ain't getting in nobody's pockets.

Jay Ray: 00:43:11

If you can, if you can afford it and go, if you can afford it and go.

Jay Ray: 00:43:14

But if you can't afford it, don't feel bad about not going.

Jay Ray: 00:43:19

DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:43:20

And that's the thing I think we need to say to people is

Jay Ray: 00:43:22

it's like, it's not a ding on you.

Jay Ray: 00:43:24

You're not a Failure because you can't go to the, the Chitlin circuit tour, right?

Jay Ray: 00:43:30

That's not, uh, it's a rough time, right?

Jay Ray: 00:43:33

It's, it's not an easy moment that we're in right now.

Jay Ray: 00:43:37

You

Jay Ray: 00:43:39

DJ Sir Daniel: It doesn't, not being able to attend the concert does not

Jay Ray: 00:43:44

take away from your, your level of devotion and fanhood to this artist.

Jay Ray: 00:43:51

Like Jay Ray said, there are choices that have to be made and in this life,

Jay Ray: 00:43:57

in this life, you gotta make, you know,

Jay Ray: 00:43:59

to eat them eggs Oh,

Jay Ray: 00:44:03

DJ Sir Daniel: a little bit more than, you know, um,

Jay Ray: 00:44:06

Hold'em.

Jay Ray: 00:44:09

DJ Sir Daniel: the Saint Texas, Texas Hold'em.

Jay Ray: 00:44:12

It might sustain you just a little bit more than that.

Jay Ray: 00:44:14

But I get it, we're not here to yuck anybody's yum.

Jay Ray: 00:44:17

go in and laugh, child.

Jay Ray: 00:44:19

DJ Sir Daniel: do what you, do what you need to do.

Jay Ray: 00:44:21

Find your joy, find your peace.

Jay Ray: 00:44:24

But, please don't go into bankruptcy about it.

Jay Ray: 00:44:28

Please don't.

Jay Ray: 00:44:30

Please

Jay Ray: 00:44:30

DJ Sir Daniel: Please don't.

Jay Ray: 00:44:31

We want you to be, be, be smart about what you're doing.

Jay Ray: 00:44:34

Handle your business.

Jay Ray: 00:44:35

But yeah, so enjoy that.

Jay Ray: 00:44:37

But you know, you can always, always go to your favorite streaming service

Jay Ray: 00:44:43

and you can look up, um, A classic Spike Lee movie by the name of School

Jay Ray: 00:44:49

Days, and you can watch that for free.

Jay Ray: 00:44:52

You can watch the Rays sing, I don't wanna be alone

Jay Ray: 00:44:55

You know, tonight,

Jay Ray: 00:44:56

yes!

Jay Ray: 00:44:58

DJ Sir Daniel: You can be entertained in the comfort of your home and celebrate

Jay Ray: 00:45:01

the 37th anniversary of Spike Lee's School Days right along with us.

Jay Ray: 00:45:06

37 years, Jay Ray.

Jay Ray: 00:45:10

Um, and 37 years, that film.

Jay Ray: 00:45:15

Um, so much of what we love about the culture today was really kind of

Jay Ray: 00:45:22

birth inside of school days, right?

Jay Ray: 00:45:25

The in terms.

Jay Ray: 00:45:27

Yes, Baychella was literally birth from school day.

Jay Ray: 00:45:30

So school days is in everything.

Jay Ray: 00:45:33

And not only that.

Jay Ray: 00:45:35

Um, there are so many prominent performers that came out of that film.

Jay Ray: 00:45:42

Jasmine guy has often talked about was like, that was a lot of our first movie.

Jay Ray: 00:45:46

Like, do we had not been in a movie before that we were like stage kids

Jay Ray: 00:45:52

and all of a sudden we're in a film.

Jay Ray: 00:45:53

So that movie.

Jay Ray: 00:45:55

is so groundbreaking.

Jay Ray: 00:45:57

We talked about it.

Jay Ray: 00:45:58

Um, during hip hop's 50th anniversary.

Jay Ray: 00:46:01

Um, we talked about the career of Spike Lee and how important

Jay Ray: 00:46:03

Spike Lee has been to hip hop.

Jay Ray: 00:46:05

So definitely go back and check out that, um, that, that show.

Jay Ray: 00:46:11

DJ Sir Daniel: L. Jackson, that popped up in Kendrick Lamar's,

Jay Ray: 00:46:14

um, halftime performance, has a wonderful performance in school days.

Jay Ray: 00:46:19

A lot of your faves, like J. Rae said.

Jay Ray: 00:46:22

Started off in, um, school days or in a sparkly joint, but also remember Jay

Jay Ray: 00:46:27

Ray, one of the underlying stories, one of the backstories of school days

Jay Ray: 00:46:32

was there was a storyline about, um, about the school, uh, what's the term?

Jay Ray: 00:46:39

Um, because apartheid was a big story

Jay Ray: 00:46:42

Mm hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:46:42

DJ Sir Daniel: 87 88.

Jay Ray: 00:46:44

Um, and so the school was benefiting from corporations that um, supported apartheid.

Jay Ray: 00:46:50

And Lawrence Fishburne's character divesting

Jay Ray: 00:46:55

Divesting.

Jay Ray: 00:46:56

Mm

Jay Ray: 00:46:57

DJ Sir Daniel: so that the school could divest from those backers so

Jay Ray: 00:47:00

that they would not support apartheid.

Jay Ray: 00:47:03

And that's 37 years ago.

Jay Ray: 00:47:05

here we are.

Jay Ray: 00:47:07

DJ Sir Daniel: issues are coming, are being brought up again in the, in,

Jay Ray: 00:47:12

in, in school days is happening today.

Jay Ray: 00:47:14

So it's like art.

Jay Ray: 00:47:16

That's the thing about good art,

Jay Ray: 00:47:18

Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:47:18

DJ Sir Daniel: old it gets, it still speaks to whatever's happening right now.

Jay Ray: 00:47:22

And shout out to visit the chat.

Jay Ray: 00:47:24

Sam Jackson, um, played one of the Jay Ray Curl brothers at the KFC that

Jay Ray: 00:47:29

was mad about them educated brothers coming up in their neighborhood

Jay Ray: 00:47:33

talking all proper and stuff.

Jay Ray: 00:47:34

And he was wearing the Jay Ray Curl cap in, um, school days.

Jay Ray: 00:47:39

Samuel L. Jackson is literally My God, he's been in everything

Jay Ray: 00:47:46

DJ Sir Daniel: a walking history book.

Jay Ray: 00:47:48

he is

Jay Ray: 00:47:49

DJ Sir Daniel: He is a walking history

Jay Ray: 00:47:51

now he's been Uncle Sam

Jay Ray: 00:47:53

DJ Sir Daniel: And now he's been Uncle Sam.

Jay Ray: 00:47:55

And, um, apparently, apparently some people were saying

Jay Ray: 00:47:57

that you shouldn't call him.

Jay Ray: 00:47:59

No, he was being Uncle Tom.

Jay Ray: 00:48:02

He was playing Uncle Tom and then I saw something about we shouldn't use

Jay Ray: 00:48:06

the term Uncle Tom, we should use the term Sambo when regarding to a black

Jay Ray: 00:48:10

person that's less than honorable.

Jay Ray: 00:48:13

That's a whole

Jay Ray: 00:48:14

That's a whole nother conversation Lord Jesus, um, but yes 37

Jay Ray: 00:48:19

years of school days Um, so yeah, go watch school if you want to, if you want to

Jay Ray: 00:48:24

get a, you know, a little entertainment, go ahead and watch school days.

Jay Ray: 00:48:27

You know, it's, it's part drama, part musical, you know, all black.

Jay Ray: 00:48:32

It's Black History Month.

Jay Ray: 00:48:34

You should just go ahead and watch it.

Jay Ray: 00:48:36

DJ Sir Daniel: Good or bad hair?

Jay Ray: 00:48:37

See if I care.

Jay Ray: 00:48:40

So, um, Sir Daniel, of course, tomorrow is a day.

Jay Ray: 00:48:46

Um, it is Valentine's Day tomorrow, Sir Daniel, um, and which is so interesting.

Jay Ray: 00:48:54

It's been so much going on.

Jay Ray: 00:48:55

It's crazy that it's Valentine's Day, but one of the things that of course happens

Jay Ray: 00:49:01

on Valentine's Day is people, and Sir Daniel, you used to have a whole set where

Jay Ray: 00:49:05

you just did your slow jam set, which was, of course, was mostly full of love

Jay Ray: 00:49:08

songs, but this brings up a question.

Jay Ray: 00:49:11

Um, what?

Jay Ray: 00:49:13

are your favorite, and it don't have to be more than one, but do

Jay Ray: 00:49:16

you have favorite hip hop love song?

Jay Ray: 00:49:19

DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:49:20

Um, I think I'll go, I feel, believe this is the first hip hop

Jay Ray: 00:49:26

Of course, LL Cool J's I Need Love.

Jay Ray: 00:49:30

Mm hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:49:31

DJ Sir Daniel: Um, right after that for me is, Oh, A Teenage Love

Jay Ray: 00:49:36

Teenage Love by Slick Rick is great.

Jay Ray: 00:49:38

DJ Sir Daniel: Don't hurt me again.

Jay Ray: 00:49:40

That's hot.

Jay Ray: 00:49:40

Don't hurt me again.

Jay Ray: 00:49:41

And um, Bonita Applebaum.

Jay Ray: 00:49:45

Bonita Applebaum is a great, great song.

Jay Ray: 00:49:48

It's so sweet.

Jay Ray: 00:49:49

Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:49:50

So, um, what are favorite, uh, uh, hip hop love songs?

Jay Ray: 00:49:56

Of course, for me, Silent Treatment by The Roots is absolutely, I think, one of

Jay Ray: 00:50:02

the most gorgeous, um, slow jams, period.

Jay Ray: 00:50:06

Um, I think One Love by Houdini.

Jay Ray: 00:50:10

DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:50:11

Love by Houdini definitely does a thing.

Jay Ray: 00:50:14

Um, You only get one.

Jay Ray: 00:50:17

One love.

Jay Ray: 00:50:18

One love.

Jay Ray: 00:50:19

Alright, I'm not gonna do, I'm not gonna do that.

Jay Ray: 00:50:21

Um, what else?

Jay Ray: 00:50:23

Uh, Did I pick another Roots song?

Jay Ray: 00:50:28

I can't pick another.

Jay Ray: 00:50:28

DJ Sir Daniel: do you think?

Jay Ray: 00:50:29

What about, um, Common?

Jay Ray: 00:50:31

Which one?

Jay Ray: 00:50:32

Uh, uh, The comment has so many.

Jay Ray: 00:50:34

But you know what?

Jay Ray: 00:50:35

If I was gonna pick a common Love song.

Jay Ray: 00:50:40

I do love Love of My Life with Erykah Badu.

Jay Ray: 00:50:42

I think that's a great song.

Jay Ray: 00:50:44

Um, but there's also I'm gonna pick You Got Me, actually.

Jay Ray: 00:50:49

So, I got two root

Jay Ray: 00:50:51

DJ Sir Daniel: Dope.

Jay Ray: 00:50:51

Dope.

Jay Ray: 00:50:51

Dope.

Jay Ray: 00:50:52

I'm gonna pick You Got Me.

Jay Ray: 00:50:53

There are some We don't give

Jay Ray: 00:50:59

We don't give rappers enough credit.

Jay Ray: 00:51:01

DJ Sir Daniel: Yes, I agree.

Jay Ray: 00:51:04

Oh, the light.

Jay Ray: 00:51:05

Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:51:06

Um, the light by, uh, uh, Common.

Jay Ray: 00:51:09

Um, you consider poor Georgia, wait a minute, this is like, you

Jay Ray: 00:51:13

consider poor Georgia a love song?

Jay Ray: 00:51:16

DJ Sir Daniel: You know MC light MC light it had quite a few

Jay Ray: 00:51:22

soliloquies about love gone wrong

Jay Ray: 00:51:25

She did

Jay Ray: 00:51:26

she did,

Jay Ray: 00:51:27

she did,

Jay Ray: 00:51:27

DJ Sir Daniel: she was dating crackheads in high school and

Jay Ray: 00:51:30

Uh, folks who are using alcohol, alcohol.

Jay Ray: 00:51:33

Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:51:34

DJ Sir Daniel: Drug dealers all of them just had a lot

Jay Ray: 00:51:38

sidebar, we talked, wasn't in our last meeting that we talked about

Jay Ray: 00:51:41

the fact that MC light storytelling is just my, like some of my favorite.

Jay Ray: 00:51:46

Cappuccino is just one of my favorite stories to hear.

Jay Ray: 00:51:49

DJ Sir Daniel: amazing.

Jay Ray: 00:51:50

She's, uh, she's right

Jay Ray: 00:51:52

in and I ordered a cup.

Jay Ray: 00:51:53

Some guy behind the back said, shut up.

Jay Ray: 00:51:56

DJ Sir Daniel: And I did.

Jay Ray: 00:51:57

Pronto.

Jay Ray: 00:51:58

Quick, fast.

Jay Ray: 00:51:59

DJ Sir Daniel: there with Slick Rick.

Jay Ray: 00:52:00

Like, she's, her narration is such an important part of rap music.

Jay Ray: 00:52:07

And shout out to those people that can entertain you and

Jay Ray: 00:52:11

spin a tale at the same time.

Jay Ray: 00:52:13

That takes a certain amount of skill.

Jay Ray: 00:52:15

So shout out to MC Lyte for that.

Jay Ray: 00:52:17

Um.

Jay Ray: 00:52:18

You know, shout out to Sam Georgie and all the and

Jay Ray: 00:52:21

Roughneck is a love song.

Jay Ray: 00:52:23

DJ Sir Daniel: and roughneck.

Jay Ray: 00:52:24

Yes, indeed

Jay Ray: 00:52:25

It's a tacky love song.

Jay Ray: 00:52:27

And you listen to Roughneck now and I'm like,

Jay Ray: 00:52:29

DJ Sir Daniel: Got to get a what?

Jay Ray: 00:52:30

this young man needs other, has other problems.

Jay Ray: 00:52:35

DJ Sir Daniel: Okay, the last point of this, the last part

Jay Ray: 00:52:37

of this tangent that we're on.

Jay Ray: 00:52:38

So, people have caught on to the fact that MC Lyte, um, made a song

Jay Ray: 00:52:43

about messing around with a 17 year old or a young man that turned About

Jay Ray: 00:52:49

Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:52:49

Mm hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:52:54

DJ Sir Daniel: listen back to that But I saw a video somebody one of these young

Jay Ray: 00:52:58

people found it and they were like, uh, Excuse me MC light you were talking about

Jay Ray: 00:53:03

Essaying somebody that's under 17 But yes, that's, that's a story for another day.

Jay Ray: 00:53:10

That's a story for another day.

Jay Ray: 00:53:11

Go ahead.

Jay Ray: 00:53:13

How Do I Love Thee by Queen Latifah.

Jay Ray: 00:53:15

DJ Sir Daniel: Dope.

Jay Ray: 00:53:15

Yes, indeed.

Jay Ray: 00:53:16

do I love thee by Queen Latifah, which people do not

Jay Ray: 00:53:19

give that song enough credit.

Jay Ray: 00:53:20

You know, it's a hip house joint.

Jay Ray: 00:53:22

She's just kind of talking over it.

Jay Ray: 00:53:25

You know, it's very sensual.

Jay Ray: 00:53:27

She made a video for that song.

Jay Ray: 00:53:29

DJ Sir Daniel: I love that one as well.

Jay Ray: 00:53:30

And yes, shout out to Viz again.

Jay Ray: 00:53:32

Mahogany by Rakim.

Jay Ray: 00:53:34

Also a dope.

Jay Ray: 00:53:35

A dope.

Jay Ray: 00:53:36

Oh, to the opposite sex.

Jay Ray: 00:53:39

Which a lot of rappers are, do very well about.

Jay Ray: 00:53:41

So listen, JRE, let's wrap it up real quick, cause I know we gotta let the

Jay Ray: 00:53:46

people go back to what they were doing,

Jay Ray: 00:53:48

Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:53:48

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Jay Ray: 00:53:50

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Jay Ray: 00:54:25

DJ Sir Daniel: We sure do, and what do I always say in this life, you have

Jay Ray: 00:54:28

a choice, you can either pick up the needle, or you can let the record play.

Jay Ray: 00:54:32

Peace to the lie!

Jay Ray: 00:54:34

Respect to the lie,

Jay Ray: 00:54:35

Okay.

Jay Ray: 00:54:36

We.

Jay Ray: 00:54:37

DJ Sir Daniel: to her lie, this

Jay Ray: 00:54:38

We are not leaving until we talk about y'all.

Jay Ray: 00:54:42

Okay.

Jay Ray: 00:54:43

Real quick.

Jay Ray: 00:54:45

DJ Sir Daniel: That girl is a star.

Jay Ray: 00:54:47

Shout Onijah.

Jay Ray: 00:54:48

Onijah is back home in these United States.

Jay Ray: 00:54:51

She's already booked.

Jay Ray: 00:54:53

already so that's peace to the lie, respect to the

Jay Ray: 00:54:56

lie, and respect to her lie.

Jay Ray: 00:54:58

She's amazing, y'all.

Jay Ray: 00:55:00

Like, I'm like, that woman is not well, but I love her.

Jay Ray: 00:55:03

DJ Sir Daniel: She is not well at all but yes indeed.

Jay Ray: 00:55:06

Thank you for joining us for this episode of Queue Points.

Jay Ray: 00:55:10

We'll see you on the next go round.

Jay Ray: 00:55:12

Peace to the

Jay Ray: 00:55:13

Peace.

Jay Ray: 00:55:15

My God, let it go.