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Episode 184

Darnell Miller on Celebrating Black Music and ‘Pride @ The Loft’ in Wilmington DE

In this special episode of Queue Points, Jay Ray sits down with Wilmington, Delaware’s own Darnell Miller—musician, community builder, and creator of the Live @ The Loft series. Darnell shares the inspiration behind “Pride @ The Loft,” an event dedicated to celebrating Black queer artistry and creating safe, vibrant spaces for music lovers. Tune in to hear about his journey, the importance of supporting independent Black artists, and how intimate venues are changing the landscape for live music. Plus, get the inside scoop on Indie Planet, Darnell’s radio show spotlighting Black indie talent. Whether you’re a music fan, an artist, or just love positive community vibes, you don’t want to miss this insightful conversation!

Darnell Miller is singer, songwriter and music curator located in Wilmington, Delaware. He’s the founder of Live @ The Loft and the host of Indie Planet on WJVS Radio.

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Chapter Markers

00:00 Intro Theme

00:06 Welcome and Event Announcement

00:31 Meet Darnell Miller

01:07 The Importance of Pride @ The Loft

02:26 Creating Safe Spaces for Artists

03:57 Performers at Pride @ The Loft

04:51 The Vision Behind Live @ The Loft

07:30 The Future of Intimate Venues

08:13 Why You Should Attend Pride @ The Loft

12:21 The Loft's Inviting Atmosphere

13:25 Indie Planet Radio Show

16:06 Closing Remarks and Gratitude

17:24 Closing Theme

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Transcript
Jay Ray:

What's up y'all?

Jay Ray:

It is Jay Ray, co-host of Queue Points, the podcast, dropping the

Jay Ray:

needle on black music history.

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And I am.

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So excited, thrilled, honored that.

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On June 7th, an event is gonna be happening in Wilmington, Delaware,

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hosted by the amazing Darnell Miller, and it's called Pride @ The Loft, and

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it's part of his Live @ The Loft series.

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And right here on Queue Points right now, Darnell Miller is here.

Jay Ray:

What's up man?

Darnell Miller:

I'm good.

Darnell Miller:

I'm good.

Darnell Miller:

I'm glad.

Darnell Miller:

I'm glad to be in my space doing this.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

And, uh, you know, I'm excited about Live @ The Loft in general.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

But, uh, I, I guess more so Pride @ The Loft,

Jay Ray:

man.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Jay Ray:

So first of all, thank you so much for inviting me to be part of the experience.

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So for those of you who are coming through, uh, I will be here hosting

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the event that night hosting.

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And, um, I'm so grateful.

Jay Ray:

So thank you for that.

Jay Ray:

What, why Pride @ The Loft now?

Darnell Miller:

Well, um.

Darnell Miller:

I felt like the time was right in the Live @ The Loft series because

Darnell Miller:

I had been doing it for some time and I kind of got a rhythm.

Darnell Miller:

I'm not where I want to be, but I kind of got a rhythm and it was a idea I've

Darnell Miller:

always had because just based on my research, excuse me, a lot of the.

Darnell Miller:

Um, a lot of the black queer population in Wilmington, Delaware

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specifically are always saying like, well, we don't have anywhere to go.

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Where can we go?

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Where can we go to hang out?

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And then not be crazy?

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Or not be like, you know, and it could just be about music or just to be about

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fun, or just to be about whatever.

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And so I figured, you know what, why not do something?

Darnell Miller:

About it.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

And I know in this area that hasn't happened and people could debate

Darnell Miller:

me if they want to, but I, I'm old enough to remember, or to even know.

Darnell Miller:

Um, but something like that hasn't really happened around

Darnell Miller:

here in probably 30 plus years.

Darnell Miller:

Wow.

Darnell Miller:

You know, when there were multiple places for people to go and in

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Delaware now there's only one.

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And it's, you know, defined by one thing.

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And if you're not into that one thing.

Darnell Miller:

And then, you know.

Jay Ray:

From your perspective.

Jay Ray:

Why is it important that we have spaces where folks can go to be themselves?

Darnell Miller:

I, I think that with, especially my, my main

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thing is music, and it's the music industry and the artists in general.

Darnell Miller:

Um, I think that because the music industry is so crazy right now.

Darnell Miller:

It's insane.

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And we don't get to be, we don't get to hear like real, authentic live music.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

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And then a lot of times artists are not in a space where they could be

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vulnerable and powerful at the same time.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

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And people forget that artists are.

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Out there on stage, night after night, or getting night after night,

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whatever they're doing, and they're walking outta that thing sometimes

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broke, not even breaking even.

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And they're tired, they're mentally drained, but there's not their, there's

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not a moment where they can get everything that they, that they poured out to people.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

And so I Live @ The Loft is like, I wanted to make it a space where the artist

Darnell Miller:

is heard and the audience is engaged and, but also the artist gets fed too.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

You know, it's, it's an interesting thing.

Darnell Miller:

Every time an artist comes here, they say, wow, this was great.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

You know, I feel a whole lot better.

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Or, I didn't know it was going to be like this.

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And, you know, it's just a great night of engagement.

Darnell Miller:

It's a, it's a, it's a two way street.

Darnell Miller:

It's not just gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme.

Darnell Miller:

But it's really a give and take the whole night.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Jay Ray:

Um.

Jay Ray:

So we're gonna have, Janay Keys is gonna be here performing

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Janay Keys,

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Marcus G

Darnell Miller:

Marcus G.

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Big Grizz.

Jay Ray:

And Big Grizz.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

And I didn't know that Big Grizz and Marcus G did a song together.

Darnell Miller:

You see how spirit

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comes together, just work itself out.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

And my thing with this whole, just these past few Live @ The

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Lofts, that specifically this one, you have a vision, but it's not necessarily

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the vision that's supposed to happen.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

But like the universe said, no, you need what's needed in there.

Darnell Miller:

You know what I'm saying?

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

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And so that's how I just, after a while, I just let those pieces fall into play.

Darnell Miller:

I let 'em fall into play.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

You know, I was like, well, who can I get the hostess?

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I don't know what to do.

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And a little birdie spoke to my ear and said, that's

Darnell Miller:

Johnnie.

Darnell Miller:

Hey.

Darnell Miller:

Hey.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

So let's talk a bit about.

Darnell Miller:

Live @ The Loft in general.

Darnell Miller:

When did the idea come to you to do this?

Darnell Miller:

Well, I don't know if I should say this, but what, uh, so, um,

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I was doing like a run of shows.

Darnell Miller:

First of all, I'm gonna back it up 'cause I didn't really just get it from

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this situation, but I grew up in a.

Darnell Miller:

Church where when artists would come to town, you would host the artist and the

Darnell Miller:

artist would sometimes do a house concert.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

So I grew up on the house concert, uh, philosophy, and I've always done stuff

Darnell Miller:

like that, but informal, like I've had friends over, I cook and we just play.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

You know what I mean?

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Just a night.

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So, but me and my drummer at the time, we were doing this run of acoustic

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shows and we were doing these so far events and up until that point,

Darnell Miller:

and again, it was the universe.

Darnell Miller:

I refuse to play where anyone is talking over me anymore.

Darnell Miller:

I don't work too hard and I done,

Jay Ray:

don't come up and Live @ The Loft talking over the artist.

Jay Ray:

That's a rule though.

Darnell Miller:

That's a rule when the artist is playing.

Darnell Miller:

You don't move around, you don't talk, you listen.

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So I refuse now at this point in my life to to play a room where I

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gotta battle with conversations.

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And so we were doing this run of shows and uh, you know, I was like,

Darnell Miller:

Wayne, they're listening to us.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

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Like they li they listening and they're like engaged and they're, they're,

Darnell Miller:

you know, they're laughing, you know, they're laughing at my corny jokes and

Darnell Miller:

all that kind of stuff, and, and, and, and we would leave and like, no kidding.

Darnell Miller:

I mean, we would leave as we're packing up to leave like our igs, we get like,

Darnell Miller:

like 80 to 90 followers in that night.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

And then the next night, same thing.

Darnell Miller:

And I was like, okay.

Darnell Miller:

I was like, let me investigate this.

Darnell Miller:

I was like, okay, so these are like elevated house concerts.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

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So I was like, I, you know, I, I wanna do that.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

I love that idea.

Darnell Miller:

I love a intimate space, you know what I mean?

Darnell Miller:

Because you get to know the artist in a more intimate setting

Darnell Miller:

without, you know, all the pro tools and the stems and everything.

Darnell Miller:

It's just them and maybe another.

Darnell Miller:

Musician or whatever, you know?

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And I was like, you know what, I wanna do that.

Darnell Miller:

'cause I like that and maybe I could get a little coin off of it.

Darnell Miller:

Amen.

Darnell Miller:

Amen.

Jay Ray:

Yes, yes.

Darnell Miller:

You know?

Darnell Miller:

Well that's

Jay Ray:

important.

Jay Ray:

'cause you know what?

Jay Ray:

When we, we have to keep spaces like this a alive.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

It's needed right now.

Darnell Miller:

Absolutely.

Darnell Miller:

My prediction is like.

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I mean, I don't claim to be no guru, no wisdom, but I predicted that, you know,

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ticket prices go higher and they will.

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You know what I mean?

Darnell Miller:

Venues are closing.

Darnell Miller:

Yep.

Darnell Miller:

Artists and independent artists need to start thinking about alternative venues.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

And the smaller venue, the more intimate venue is gonna be the

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way that you win your audience.

Darnell Miller:

It's like evangelism.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

I go from town to town proselytizing.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

You know what I mean?

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And that's how it's gonna be.

Darnell Miller:

Now as an indie artist, it's gonna be a little rougher 'cause it's all on you.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

You know what I'm saying?

Darnell Miller:

But that's the, that's the way you're gonna build your fan base or

Darnell Miller:

when your audience is that smaller venues like this or things like this.

Jay Ray:

Mm. So.

Jay Ray:

In speaking to, if you could speak to folks out there in the world, in

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Wilmington, Delaware about why they need to be in this room for Pride @ The Loft

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on June 7th, what would you tell them?

Darnell Miller:

I would say that because it needs to happen in light

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of whatever things I've been hearing from that's been happening around

Darnell Miller:

in the area, it needs to happen.

Darnell Miller:

You need to support these spaces, not only independent artist spaces, but other.

Darnell Miller:

Queer spaces, like, you know, and I'm, I'm gonna make that call to

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all my church folk and my believers.

Darnell Miller:

'cause my question is, what Bible are you reading?

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Are you reading the same Bible that I'm reading?

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Because like Jesus always.

Darnell Miller:

Went to the non, the

Jay Ray:

nons.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

His disciples were made up of nons.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

He talked to women in public when women weren't supposed

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to be addressed in public.

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So like, you know, I'm put in a call to just this area in general.

Darnell Miller:

Number one, Wilmington, free yourself.

Darnell Miller:

That's the problem.

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This is a repressed, oppressed area.

Darnell Miller:

You can feel the cloud.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

You know what I mean?

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You know, free yourself and open up your mind.

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Open up your opinion.

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Come out and celebrate.

Darnell Miller:

It's not gonna be what you think about, it's not gonna be what you think.

Darnell Miller:

Mm-hmm.

Darnell Miller:

When you get here.

Darnell Miller:

So don't be coming in here and thinking like jokers is gonna be

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vogueing the house down and stuff.

Darnell Miller:

Mm-hmm.

Darnell Miller:

That's all stereotypical.

Darnell Miller:

Mm-hmm.

Darnell Miller:

It's music.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

It's music.

Darnell Miller:

It's music.

Darnell Miller:

Come enjoy this music.

Jay Ray:

Absolutely.

Jay Ray:

So.

Jay Ray:

Come out Pride @ The Loft, we're gonna have, uh, Janay Keys, Marcus G Janay Keys.

Darnell Miller:

She can sing, man.

Darnell Miller:

My

Jay Ray:

God.

Jay Ray:

So she can say opera.

Jay Ray:

Oh, my funny Janay Keys story is I went to a Juneteenth event

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with my mom two years ago.

Jay Ray:

Oh, wow.

Jay Ray:

Jena Keys was singing, and of course I have to meet the

Jay Ray:

performers like, who's singing?

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

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I was like, oh my God, girl, you killed it.

Jay Ray:

She met my mom.

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We had the best conversation.

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She's the sweetie lady.

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And so she, we remembered each other, so this is like, oh,

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that we get to be in this space.

Jay Ray:

Marcus G met randomly as I was, uh, shooting

Jay Ray:

my brother was spending that, uh, Queerapalooza last year.

Jay Ray:

Ended up meeting Marcus G 'cause I was shooting pictures.

Jay Ray:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray:

Big Grizz is the only one I haven't met and I haven't met Eddie.

Jay Ray:

Eddie is going to be here.

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Eddie doing the, he's the bartender.

Jay Ray:

He kind of looks like, you know what Eddie?

Jay Ray:

Eddie does?

Jay Ray:

Look.

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Zo is here.

Jay Ray:

Y'all is.

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Shout out to Zo.

Jay Ray:

I could not do this without Zo.

Jay Ray:

He, it is like, I was like,

Darnell Miller:

he

Jay Ray:

looks like Eddie.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, that is true.

Jay Ray:

Um,

Darnell Miller:

my only question is like, what is Eddie gonna wear?

Darnell Miller:

But Eddie has a, he created, he did exactly my normal bartender.

Darnell Miller:

Her name is Danita.

Darnell Miller:

We call her Danita Jo.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah after Janet Damita Jo, I love.

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But um, you know, I was like, Danita, like I got a vision.

Darnell Miller:

You can, you don't have to come to, you don't have to work at this one.

Darnell Miller:

But my vision was to have an all queer team from the

Darnell Miller:

door person to the bartender.

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'cause I just want people to feel, you know, comfortable.

Darnell Miller:

And so I was like, Eddie, who can I get?

Darnell Miller:

You know, at first I was going, I was, I talked to your brother, Eddie

Jay Ray:

Uhhuh.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

And I was like, no, no, no, no.

Darnell Miller:

He was like, I don't know if I can make it.

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But I was like, no, Eddie.

Darnell Miller:

The next day Eddie sent me the drink menu and I was like, he did

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exactly what needed to be done.

Darnell Miller:

So it's gonna be yes, colorful.

Darnell Miller:

And if you need to get there, he gonna get you there quick.

Jay Ray:

Yo, please be here, Live @ The Loft, June 7th, Wilmington, Delaware.

Jay Ray:

Check Darnell's page, check, uh, my page.

Jay Ray:

All the information will be there.

Jay Ray:

But more importantly, y'all.

Jay Ray:

Support these kinds of events.

Jay Ray:

We will, we need them.

Jay Ray:

Like the thing I love about the Loft before we get outta here too,

Jay Ray:

uh, Darnell is, well y'all talk about the radio show now, right?

Jay Ray:

Oh, we, we cannot go anywhere.

Jay Ray:

Ain't

Darnell Miller:

nobody right.

Darnell Miller:

We

Jay Ray:

gonna definitely talk about the radio show and, um,

Jay Ray:

this space has such energy in it.

Jay Ray:

And that's also the thing too.

Jay Ray:

The loft is, is part of the fa part of the family that is

Darnell Miller:

happening here?

Darnell Miller:

Mm-hmm.

Darnell Miller:

Well, you know, I remember when I first moved in here, I was in the

Darnell Miller:

middle of like being on the road, so I didn't spend a lot of time in here.

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But after I got settled, um, all I did was just have friends over.

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And I would cook and we would jam, or I would, we would just hang out.

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And even now, like I have a, a, a buddy of mine that's in from la, you know, who's in

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the middle of like, working on his album.

Darnell Miller:

He just came to this side of the world to, you know, hang out.

Darnell Miller:

And, uh, it's always, I've always wanted to make it an inviting space.

Darnell Miller:

Now it's a work in progress because now it's, uh.

Darnell Miller:

It's, I know what I want this to be, you know?

Darnell Miller:

'cause I, I teach here, I record here.

Darnell Miller:

We do Live @ The Loft here.

Darnell Miller:

You know, all those things.

Darnell Miller:

And, um, so it's a work in progress.

Darnell Miller:

Like I'm, you know, I'm trying to work, I'm, I'm trying to get funding Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

To make it exactly how I want it.

Darnell Miller:

Uh, money cometh now.

Jay Ray:

Absolutely.

Jay Ray:

And the fact that you put that out mm-hmm.

Jay Ray:

In this format is important.

Jay Ray:

Before we get outta here, we must talk about your radio show.

Darnell Miller:

Yes, indie Planet, uh, I am.

Darnell Miller:

It's Indie Planet.

Darnell Miller:

It, it airs every Monday night on wjvsradio.com.

Darnell Miller:

You can log on, and we have our own app, WJVS Radio.

Darnell Miller:

WJVS Radio is a black owned station.

Jay Ray:

Period.

Darnell Miller:

And that's, that's the first thing I want to say.

Darnell Miller:

It's a black owned radio station.

Darnell Miller:

And, um, they had approached me, you know, like, do you wanna be on radio?

Darnell Miller:

And I was like, no, I don't.

Darnell Miller:

You know, but secretly, but secretly, secretly, I was like, well, you know, I

Darnell Miller:

could, I could be, I could play Questlove.

Darnell Miller:

I could be that guy because I've always had ambitions to like.

Darnell Miller:

Do that kind of stuff.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

But I'm the type of person, like I have the ambition, but if you bring

Darnell Miller:

it to me, I'll be like, no, I'm okay.

Darnell Miller:

But like, I really want, I'm that guy, I'm that guy.

Darnell Miller:

So he came to me and uh, I was like, well, let me think about it.

Darnell Miller:

And, you know, about a couple weeks later I was like, well, I'll do something.

Darnell Miller:

I want to be, I wanna play independent music.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

Independent artists, independent black artists.

Darnell Miller:

Now, I, I love all genres and I'm all for, listen, I love everything

Darnell Miller:

from death metal to hair metal to country, to, I love it all.

Darnell Miller:

This particular show, I wanted to focus on the black indie artist because

Darnell Miller:

whenever you look, when you, whenever you go to the, uh, DSPs mm-hmm.

Darnell Miller:

And you say you type in indie, it's like all these, you

Darnell Miller:

know, alternative type bands.

Darnell Miller:

So no one thinks that a black artist is, can be a independent

Darnell Miller:

artist, but to me, the ultimate independent artist is Eric Robeson

Jay Ray:

Abs.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

And still independent.

Darnell Miller:

Absolutely.

Darnell Miller:

So it's like I wanna lift up all these wonderful black indie artists,

Darnell Miller:

and we're in a great age, a great space now where there's so many,

Darnell Miller:

you have Kevin Ross, you have.

Darnell Miller:

People like El mean you have people like Cleo Soul, you still have your

Jay Ray:

font foreign exchange.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

You know, yes.

Darnell Miller:

I play the heck out of font.

Darnell Miller:

Like I love, I'm a FTE fan.

Darnell Miller:

Like for Real Little Brother.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

I'm sorry.

Darnell Miller:

They, this is their farewell tour.

Darnell Miller:

But, uh, so I wanted to lift up those.

Darnell Miller:

And now you have people like Ann Nesbe.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

Jagged Edge Brownstone.

Darnell Miller:

They're also now independent artists.

Darnell Miller:

Yep.

Darnell Miller:

You know, and so.

Darnell Miller:

I just wanna lift all of them up and to show that it's not just rock and

Darnell Miller:

alternative rock, but it's some good soul.

Darnell Miller:

And the thing I like about Black and the artists is that it's not monolithic.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

It's, it runs the gamut.

Darnell Miller:

So I'll play the Sheela who I love.

Jay Ray:

Oh my God.

Jay Ray:

Shout out to you.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

I'll play all of that.

Darnell Miller:

And, and, and some in between.

Darnell Miller:

Yeah.

Darnell Miller:

So every Monday night, 8:00 PM to 10:00 PM w JVs radio.com.

Darnell Miller:

You heard it?

Jay Ray:

Yo, thank you for continuing to do all the work that you do.

Jay Ray:

For what you do here in the community in Wilmington, it

Jay Ray:

is necessary and appreciated.

Jay Ray:

I know you, I mean, you are a legend, so not

Darnell Miller:

really.

Darnell Miller:

You

Jay Ray:

are okay, but you are.

Jay Ray:

Listen,

Darnell Miller:

he been, I knew your music.

Darnell Miller:

He been doing some good heroin right now.

Darnell Miller:

So

Jay Ray:

I knew Darnell's music before I knew you.

Jay Ray:

So, mm-hmm.

Jay Ray:

Listen, you out here doing your thing.

Jay Ray:

Um, so definitely check out the radio show.

Jay Ray:

Definitely be here for Pride @ The Loft on June 7th.

Jay Ray:

Gotta be here for that.

Jay Ray:

You gotta be here.

Jay Ray:

And, um, thank you man for inviting me to be part of this journey.

Jay Ray:

It's my pleasure.

Jay Ray:

Appreciate

Darnell Miller:

you and I hope this will not be the last No.

Darnell Miller:

That last thing that we do together.

Jay Ray:

Listen, we cooking, you know what I'm saying?

Jay Ray:

We gonna get this pot that, that kitchen back there.

Jay Ray:

We gum be cooking.

Darnell Miller:

Gumbo.

Darnell Miller:

Gumbo.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

Fish and grits.

Darnell Miller:

Yes.

Darnell Miller:

All that except everything.

Darnell Miller:

Except for okra.

Jay Ray:

No okra.

Jay Ray:

Oh, we gotta have a conversation offline.

Jay Ray:

Oh my God.

Darnell Miller:

I love okra.

Darnell Miller:

Anyway.

Darnell Miller:

I knew something y'all.

Darnell Miller:

I knew something was wrong with I knew Okra.

Jay Ray:

Y'all, thank y'all so much for tuning in for

Jay Ray:

this episode of Queue Points.

Jay Ray:

Definitely follow Queue Points.

Jay Ray:

Definitely follow Darnell Miller and be here on June 7th.

Jay Ray:

We appreciate y'all.

Jay Ray:

We love y'all.

Jay Ray:

Peace.

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DJ Sir Daniel

DJ Sir Daniel is a DJ/Selector and part of Atlanta's, all-vinyl crew, Wax Fundamentals. Co-host of the Queue Points podcast, he is an advocate for DJ culture and is passionate about creating atmospheres of inclusivity and jubilation from a Black perspective.

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Jay Ray

Johnnie Ray Kornegay III (Jay Ray) is a podcast consultant and co-host and producer of Queue Points, the Ambie Award-nominated podcast that drops the needle on Black music history. In addition to his duties at Queue Points, he is the Deputy Director of Strategy and Impact for CNP (Counter Narrative Project). A photographer, creative consultant and social commentator, Jay Ray's work is centered around a commitment to telling full and honest stories about communities often ignored.