Episode 113

Trip Hop, Drum & Bass, and the Evolution of UK Beats (Guest: Jason Randall Smith)

DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray reunite with Jason Randall Smith to unpack how trip hop and drum and bass grew out of Bristol clubs and London raves, with Black DJs blending hip hop breaks, reggae samples, and dub into new sounds. They share crate-digging stories from HMV shops, warehouse parties, and first spins of records like Massive Attack's "Daydreaming" and Goldie's "Inner City Life." The talk connects those UK scenes to Timbaland's flips on Aaliyah tracks and the remix culture that kept everyone trading ideas across the Atlantic.

The Breakdown

  • How did the Wild Bunch in Bristol spark trip hop? Jay Ray maps the early 80s crew—Tricky, 3D, Daddy G, Mushroom, Nelly Hooper—to Massive Attack's debut "Any Love" and Blue Lines, recorded at Neneh Cherry's house after she got them signed.
  • Why did trip hop marketing extract Black voices? Jason Randall Smith explains the 1994 Mixmag coinage, Portishead's Dummy shine, and how labels like Mo Wax positioned it as "safer" hip hop for introspective rooms.
  • What racism birthed jungle and drum and bass? Jay Ray details Black Jamaican-heritage DJs getting pushed from white raves, mashing reggae over fast breaks into gritty jungle parties, evolving into shinier drum and bass.
  • How did Goldie and Roni Size hook hip hop heads? Hosts recall Diane Charlemagne's vocals on "Inner City Life," Roni Size's "Brown Paper Bag," and Reprazent live shows that had crowds losing it on those drops.
  • Did Timbaland borrow from Everything But The Girl? Sir Daniel and Jay Ray link Walking Wounded's drum patterns to Timbaland slowing them for Aaliyah, turning UK underground into late-90s US hits.

Jason Randall Smith Bio

Jason Randall Smith’s longtime personal passions involve music appreciation, sonic curation, and media preservation. While attending the State University of New York at Albany, he volunteered at WCDB Albany 90.9 FM, hosting several radio shows as a DJ and producing promotional spots for the station. As a writer, Jason penned music reviews and long-form articles for Impose Magazine as well as podcast reviews for The A/V Club's Podmass column. In addition, his poem "A Lesson In Deterioration" was included in the book Soul Babies: Black Popular Culture And The Post-Soul Aesthetic by Mark Anthony Neal. Jason is the host and producer of Radio BSOTS (Both Sides Of The Surface), a podcast championing independent and Creative Commons music in a variety of genres since August of 2005. He is currently the music director at Bondfire Radio in Brooklyn, NY, where his curatorial duties help shape the sound of the station. Radio BSOTS has been broadcasting live on this station since February of 2015.

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Chapter Markers

00:00 Queue Points Trailer

01:02 Welcome Back Banter

02:59 Self Care And Loss

05:39 Support The Show

08:08 Crossover Event Plug

09:36 Trip Hop Setup

12:03 Guest Intro Jason

16:28 Trip Hop Origins Bristol

24:19 First Encounters Trip Hop

35:22 Marketing And Extraction

43:35 Drum And Bass Tease

45:19 Drum And Bass Discovery

48:29 Rappers Meet Drum and Bass

50:28 Jungle Roots and Racism

52:51 Jungle vs Drum and Bass

54:02 Goldie Timeless Breakthrough

57:13 Jason on Labels and Raves

01:02:56 Talking Loud Label Love

01:05:02 Miami Bass Connections

01:19:43 Remix Culture Revival

01:23:15 4Hero Soulful Drum n Bass

01:27:23 Future Risks and Influences

01:29:43 Plugging BSOTS Podcast

01:33:21 Honoring DJ Casper

01:35:06 Queue Points Wrap Up

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About your hosts

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DJ Sir Daniel

DJ Sir Daniel is a DJ/Selector and part of Atlanta's, all-vinyl crew, Wax Fundamentals. Co-host of the Queue Points podcast, he is an advocate for DJ culture and is passionate about creating atmospheres of inclusivity and jubilation from a Black perspective.

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Jay Ray

Johnnie Ray Kornegay III (Jay Ray) is a podcast consultant and co-host and producer of Queue Points, the Ambie Award-nominated podcast that drops the needle on Black music history. In addition to his duties at Queue Points, he is the Deputy Director of Strategy and Impact for CNP (Counter Narrative Project). A photographer, creative consultant and social commentator, Jay Ray's work is centered around a commitment to telling full and honest stories about communities often ignored.