Episode 160

New Edition's Diddy Era: 'One Love' Is A Twenty Year Old Musical Moment We Forgot About

Published on: 15th October, 2024

In this episode of Queue Points Podcast, hosts DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray revisit the 20th anniversary of New Edition's 'One Love' album on Bad Boy Records, exploring the collaboration between the iconic R&B group and Diddy. The discussion covers the creative control battles, production challenges, and the impact these conflicts had on the album's success. The hosts also touch on Bobby Brown's absence and the internal struggles within New Edition during this era. Tune in for a deep dive into the history of New Edition and their tumultuous partnership with Diddy, shedding light on how they navigated these significant career challenges. Join us on Patreon for exclusive, uncut footage and more insights. Don't forget to subscribe, share, and support Queue Points for more discussions on Black music history.

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Speaker:

DJ Sir Daniel: Greetings and welcome back to another episode

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of Queue Points podcast, dropping the needle on black music history.

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I am DJ Sir Daniel.

Jay Ray:

And my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government

Jay Ray:

as Johnny Ray Cornegay, the third what's happening, people.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: Well, I can tell you what's happening, Jay Ray.

Jay Ray:

P Diddy is to say that he's in trouble is an understatement.

Jay Ray:

We're now 120 more allegations deep and the saga just continues.

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Um, more artists that he's worked with are coming out with their

Jay Ray:

own tales of working with him.

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But you know what you and I were having a conversation about a, a video that

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we recently saw featuring Johnny Gill and Johnny Gill, of course, we know.

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Iconic legendary vocalist, um, member of.

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Uh, Levert, sweat and Gill, also a member of a new edition, of course, was

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reflecting on his time and new additions time working with Diddy on Bad Boy.

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And you and I looked at each other like, huh,

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that's

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DJ Sir Daniel: I completely forgot about that.

Jay Ray:

That was a pro.

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That was a moment in time.

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it's wild when you think about it now one that it was that many years.

Jay Ray:

So that is the 20th anniversary of the release of new additions album on

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Bad Boy, which was called one love.

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It was their seventh album,

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DJ Sir Daniel: Mm hmm.

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um, released in November of 2004.

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So we're really coming up on it on the Bad Boy, universal.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Ooh.

Jay Ray:

We got a lot to talk about there leading up to this record, but

Jay Ray:

you know, what's interesting about this album for me personally, sir, Daniel.

Jay Ray:

And I do want to get in, have, have us get into what Johnny Gill said.

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What's interesting for me though, about this album is literally forgot.

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So there was home again,

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yes,

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and then there was one love in my mind.

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They were the same album.

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DJ Sir Daniel: same, same Jay Ray saying same.

Jay Ray:

I was like, when, so that wasn't on hot tonight when on the home again.

Jay Ray:

Oh, huh.

Jay Ray:

I literally said the same thing and I figured out why we feel this way.

Jay Ray:

Sir, Daniel, the reason why

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: Okay.

Jay Ray:

this way, and this speaks to kind of the omni presence of a Bad Boy in that

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era between like 96 and like the early 2000s was that of course, Diddy produced.

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The single from the home again record.

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for whatever reason, I merged these two things together and was like, Oh yeah.

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One love.

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Of course that I remembered, I remember the hot tonight that was on there

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and I thought it was all six of them.

Jay Ray:

And it wasn't until I was getting ready for this show, sir, Daniel, where they

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were like, five members were in a group.

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And I'm like, no, that don't make no sense.

Jay Ray:

It was six members in the group.

Jay Ray:

It wasn't, this is a totally different record.

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DJ Sir Daniel: It was not, it was supposed to be a celebration of new

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edition, finally leaving MCA because they had been with MCA for decades,

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they were finally leaving MCA and they were also, they also got their masters.

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deal.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Which is a huge deal for artists.

Jay Ray:

You hear them talk about it to this day about getting their masters,

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getting the original reel to reels in their case of their recordings there.

Jay Ray:

Like you said, they had not put an album out in seven years.

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So.

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It just kind of felt like, you know, Diddy is Diddy and Bad Boy records.

Jay Ray:

As you mentioned, J rate has been running things for lack of a better

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term for, for close to a decade now, they've had a great track run.

Jay Ray:

Um, They've had, they got this new deal with universal records, which that just

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was not a good era for Bad Boy in my, in my opinion, and clearly yours as well.

Jay Ray:

But they actually signed Jay Ray in 2002.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Guess when the album finally came out 2004.

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So there's a.

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Two year gap.

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There's two years of being in the studios, two years of, I'm sure

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photo shoots, two years of writing.

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And the only thing that I can think of, Jay Ray, is that they were just,

Jay Ray:

there was too many chefs in the kitchen.

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'cause when you look at who was on the roster as far as producers,

Jay Ray:

Jay Ray, and writers, first of all, new Edition of course.

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Being the, the, the consummate performance that they are, are writing as well.

Jay Ray:

This is not just like, we're going to sit here and let you give us stuff.

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This is a collaboration.

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They are,

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They have had hit after hit as a group and solo.

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They are seasoned performers.

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So by then new edition is 20 years into their career.

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They are veterans.

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DJ Sir Daniel: they are veterans.

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They are heads of state, in my opinion.

Jay Ray:

And so of course the album roster of producers includes,

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you know, your Stevie J's.

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You got your, now you got your Mario Winans, Ryan, um, Leslie, and who is

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a whole nother conversation to have.

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long, that's a whole other long conversation.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: That's a whole nother conversation to have, Dre and Vidal.

Jay Ray:

And funny enough, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were producers on

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this album as well, Jay Ray.

Jay Ray:

That's a lot of chefs in the kitchen,

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a lot of chefs.

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And of course, you know, the thing about it, and I think it was, uh,

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Michael Bivens, it might've been Ricky Bell that talked about.

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this at the time, Bad Boy, of course, didn't really want, they

Jay Ray:

weren't really keen on the Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis edition.

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So Jimmy and Terry only did, I think two songs on this record, if I'm correct.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

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They did two songs on the record.

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And most of that was because I think, you know, budget wise

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bet, you know, did he wants to

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DJ Sir Daniel: you

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in house with the hit men.

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DJ Sir Daniel: know, of course.

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That's

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we know that new edition is like, nah, like our big bangers.

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Is this we jimmy jam and terry lewis like

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DJ Sir Daniel: that's magic right there

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are we not gonna have a record with jimmy j have songs with jimmy

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jim And terry lewis, but I I do want us to talk a little bit about um The

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moment in time that new edition are actually coming into Bad Boy because I

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think that does cloud What happened to?

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so in The early, the late nineties.

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So this is 2000 and beyond Bad Boy changes a lot.

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So by 2002, when new edition sign the head, all the, the, the original

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kind of the old G's are gone, so there's no more faith Evans.

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There's no more biggie.

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There's no more mace, like all of these people who were part of Bad Boy version 1.

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0 have all moved on.

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And now we're into Bad Boy version.

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2.

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0, which did he had gone through?

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And because Diddy is the biggest star on the label and

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DJ Sir Daniel: by design

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design, right, he grew to be the biggest thing on the label.

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Right.

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of course he went through his own challenges.

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This is after the club incident with the shooting and shine.

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And

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DJ Sir Daniel: J Lo.

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so.

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Diddy is having a rough time chart wise in this era.

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And I remember when I heard about the fact that new edition signed

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with Bad Boy on paper, it made sense.

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It's like, Diddy is from, you know, this era of.

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He understands R& B.

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He's helped to craft some of the most amazing R& B and ushered

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in some of the most amazing R& B acts we'll ever experience.

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And it's like, Oh yeah, new addition signing with him makes sense.

Jay Ray:

And then of course we get into it and realize like, Oh my God, this is

Jay Ray:

actually kind of a mess because Johnny Gill alludes to that in the interview

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of like, yeah, it didn't work out the way we thought it was going to.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

Jay Ray:

So, Johnny Gill's, um, interview, he specifically recalls an incident where,

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you know, and he always prefaces, prefaces the conversation by saying,

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Hey, I've known Sean for years.

Jay Ray:

Which is true.

Jay Ray:

They, you know, if you're in the music industry long enough, you're going to run

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into the same people over and over again.

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Y'all are running in the same circles.

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You're probably on tour with each other.

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They know each other.

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They're in the same age group.

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This is, so Johnny Gill is looking at him like, you're my peer.

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We're bros.

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Right.

Jay Ray:

And so he recounts these really ugly incidents where Sean kind of oversteps.

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His the boundaries and like gets really flippant with him and he was like, hey

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now, wait a minute Then this thing, you know, they're having these drop

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knockdown drag out arguments And jray, so I have a theory as you mentioned Um

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Bad Boy isn't really on the charts like that anymore um The roster is looking

Jay Ray:

real funny because now the roster is made up of mostly reality TV stars.

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Diddy has transitioned from a recording star to a television star.

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Thanks to MTV

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Mhm.

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DJ Sir Daniel: and the making the band series.

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Of course, you know, you've got, first of all, remember that.

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That held that weird moment in time where he had all these

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white acts, like he had dream.

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He had, what was it?

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Was it machine gun Kelly?

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Clang.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah.

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So he was, he was really, really like, I guess, trying to, of course,

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cross over on in a major way by introducing non black acts to Bad Boy.

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And that really didn't work.

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If you look at the, the, the roster and who actually was successful.

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But I, I go back to the, to the making the band series.

Jay Ray:

Diddy has now has this television persona of the mogul and the, the HNIC everything.

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I'm the last, I'm the last stop for everything that goes on around here.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

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DJ Sir Daniel: And so I think he carried over that persona that

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give me a cheesecake from junior's persona into a conversation with.

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New addition who are his age or slight, maybe slightly older, who have been

Jay Ray:

in the actual industry longer than him are actual performers who have

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sold millions of records, consummate performers who, who get up there and

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do a two step like nobody else can.

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They can fall into choreography.

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These are seasoned professionals.

Jay Ray:

Jay Ray, it sounds to me like one love was not a collaboration.

Jay Ray:

One love was definitely a battle, a battle, mostly with Diddy's, probably

Jay Ray:

his ego and him trying to keep creative control over this project when he didn't,

Jay Ray:

he probably didn't realize that he could have gotten a lot further if it had

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been more of a collaboration instead of him trying to bully some grown ass men.

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And as we see here, it took, so the album, you want to talk about the stats.

Jay Ray:

hmm

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: Let's talk about the stats.

Jay Ray:

So they were signed, like I said, in November of 20, excuse me, 2002.

Jay Ray:

Mm

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DJ Sir Daniel: The album did not come out until 2004.

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The first single, Hot Tonight, which was a battle in of it.

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So,

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hmm.

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DJ Sir Daniel: because.

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by the way.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Produced by Ryan Leslie did not, according to new edition, the

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single did not reflect their maturity and it did not reflect the maturity of

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their audience because they know who they are and they know who their audience is.

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They know how old the audience is.

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And this, this literally sounds like something you could

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give to a one 12 or day 26.

Jay Ray:

Right, right, right, right.

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Yes

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So listen, y'all, we can't do everything here on YouTube.

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So which you should do is you should definitely join our Patreon

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where we have a version of this particular show with some extra

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footage from the one love era of new

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DJ Sir Daniel: Listen, Jerry is talking really greasy on this.

Jay Ray:

Um, unedited version.

Jay Ray:

I really think you need to check it out.

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Cause you, he's in rare form and you never seen him talking like this.

Jay Ray:

I sometimes I had to step back myself.

Jay Ray:

I couldn't believe it.

Jay Ray:

No, but on a serious tip, if you want us, you know, there's things

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that we can introduce and play.

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Um, On the backside, but we can't do it here.

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Cause you know, we'll get flagged in, you know, how YouTube does this thing.

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So make sure you subscribe and come on over

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Yes.

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DJ Sir Daniel: the raw uncut footage.

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Trust me.

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You don't want to miss it.

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The cool kids are over there.

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Come join the cool kids and just, you know, get all the behind the

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scenes juice that you know, you want

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Peace y'all.

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DJ Sir Daniel: peace.

Jay Ray:

So the album, one love debuted at number 12.

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On billboards, 200 chart and number five on the billboard R and B hip hop chart.

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respectable for a band of that caliber and new additions audience

Jay Ray:

What did this record of course, and honestly, from a commercial and critical

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perspective, the reviews were fine.

Jay Ray:

People were like, no, this is actually a competent record.

Jay Ray:

Did he knows how to make sure that a record is clean, that it

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sounds good, all of the above.

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So people didn't have concerns with the quality of the album per se,

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but it was some of this other stuff.

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DJ Sir Daniel: It was some of the other stuff we were talking

Jay Ray:

about, the lack of cohesion between Diddy and new, um, new edition.

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And so the single.

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Which again was a lot.

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There was a lot of contention between, um, between the label and the artists.

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They didn't really want that single to be the first thing, because this is, this is

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how you're reintroducing yourself after seven years of not releasing an album.

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This is not, this is not only how you're reintroducing yourself to

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your core audience, but there's a whole nother generation that

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is getting to no new addition.

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That single Jay Ray peaked at number 35 on Billboard's R& B chart and

Jay Ray:

number 87 on Billboard's Hot 100.

Jay Ray:

We're talking about New Edition here, Jay Ray.

Jay Ray:

This is New Edition.

Jay Ray:

This is a, this is a super group.

Jay Ray:

This is New Edition, Bell Biv DeVoe, and Johnny Gill.

Jay Ray:

Forum to make Tron at this point.

Jay Ray:

And then, so by April of 2005, the, the album came out in November of 2004.

Jay Ray:

By April of 2005, guess how many copies it actually sold?

Jay Ray:

245,000 copies, I think.

Jay Ray:

I think Johnny Gill might have sold that on his own back in 1985.

Jay Ray:

Right.

Jay Ray:

With the record that people,

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: didn't even know.

Jay Ray:

You know what I'm saying?

Jay Ray:

This is, that's wild considering that again, this is a,

Jay Ray:

this is a heritage group.

Jay Ray:

This is a heritage group.

Jay Ray:

These are not some new jacks,

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Jay Ray:

You know, it's interesting when I put this in perspective today, we

Jay Ray:

would look at 245, 000 and think, Oh my God, that record is such a hit.

Jay Ray:

This is awesome.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: right?

Jay Ray:

But

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: copies.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Jay Ray:

copies, right.

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He's like, Oh my God, that's really

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: Y'all do that.

Jay Ray:

Grand

Jay Ray:

This is a hit album, but, um, In 2004 and 2005, is not it, right?

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And as a result, new edition.

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Asked to be really like, listen, we went out of this thing.

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We bow out.

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DJ Sir Daniel: opening, grand closing, literally a year, Jay Ray from November of

Jay Ray:

2004 to November of 2005, the span of the album one and done, we are out of here.

Jay Ray:

Let us out of our, let us out of this contract.

Jay Ray:

That's it.

Jay Ray:

Let's just wash my hands, but Jay Ray who's missing out of this equation.

Jay Ray:

like, we haven't talked about the fact that there is a member, the,

Jay Ray:

the Kang of R& B is not in this group.

Jay Ray:

And we're not meaning that facetiously.

Jay Ray:

Bobby Brown is amazing.

Jay Ray:

King of R& B.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: Jay Ray, where, so we saw Bobby Brown in 1996,

Jay Ray:

part of the home again project,

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And

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: but where was he during one love

Jay Ray:

Well, so the interesting thing.

Jay Ray:

So new edition reforms in 1996, they do an album home again.

Jay Ray:

It's amazing.

Jay Ray:

Everybody's excited to have new edition back.

Jay Ray:

So what do artists do?

Jay Ray:

Sir, Daniel, when they need to promote an album, they like, we got to go on tour.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: on the road again,

Jay Ray:

are new edition.

Jay Ray:

We're going to do all of our new edition stuff.

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And then we're going to do our BBD, our Ralph T, our Johnny G

Jay Ray:

and our Bell Biv DeVoe stuff, and it's going to be amazing, baby.

Jay Ray:

Listen, those brothers was scratch.

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Being Sir Daniel.

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DJ Sir Daniel: I believe it.

Jay Ray:

I mean, knock down drag outs, but it's in all fairness and all honesty, they've

Jay Ray:

been doing that since they were kids,

Jay Ray:

Yeah,

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DJ Sir Daniel: which is to be expected.

Jay Ray:

You know, you've got growing men, um, on tour with each other.

Jay Ray:

All everybody has.

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Different personalities, their own egos, of course.

Jay Ray:

And they're making money.

Jay Ray:

So yes, you're going to have a clash of the Titans.

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that's the other big part.

Jay Ray:

So yes, I know we we did the whole thing about them arguing and not getting along.

Jay Ray:

But the other thing was Bob from Bobby Brown's perspective.

Jay Ray:

He's like, I don't want to split.

Jay Ray:

You don't know you have when you're in a group like this, like you

Jay Ray:

got to split the money up evenly

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah,

Jay Ray:

it's not five, it is six.

Jay Ray:

So when you've now been a solo act for as long as Bobby Brown had been a solo act,

Jay Ray:

those splits were also a thing as well.

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Um,

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DJ Sir Daniel: got a lot of kids to take care of

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a lot of kids to take care of.

Jay Ray:

That was a whole different point of time in Bobby Brown's life as well.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: for sure.

Jay Ray:

Bobby did not sign on for the.

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one love the bad whole Bad Boy era, but sir, Daniel, one thing

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that you said earlier, and I know we're going to get out of here in a

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second, but I do think it is really

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not ironic is the wrong word.

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I felt like.

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Do addition fighting so hard to get from under the thumb and the

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foot of all of these MCA records.

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Maurice star back in the day, all of these people that were like, no, no,

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no, we're going to hold you down.

Jay Ray:

I think the other thing is.

Jay Ray:

Going over there to Bad Boy, they quickly figured out like, no, cause he's already

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trying to take control of stuff that we've worked so hard to get, regain our control.

Jay Ray:

You can't have it.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: You are absolutely right.

Jay Ray:

Um, one caveat.

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So like Bobby Brown rejoined new edition right after they, um, left Bad Boy and

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went to support the one love project.

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What was left of it?

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right.

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DJ Sir Daniel: And they went on tour after that, but you're absolutely right.

Jay Ray:

I it's I couldn't have said it any better.

Jay Ray:

These are grown men who have literally come up in the industry as children have

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gone have Gone up against every monster in this industry that you can think of

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and for You know, again, like I said, Diddy is at this time is really feeling

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himself and wants to take creative control, keep everything in house, of

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course, like you said, to, to keep it, um, more beneficial for him economically,

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but these fellas are just like, no, you can't talk to us like, um, the band.

Jay Ray:

We're not Danny B.

Jay Ray:

Kane.

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You're not going to, to roast us and have us doing a dance battle.

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You can't do that with us.

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And so it's just, it's really simple.

Jay Ray:

Let's surmise it.

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Jay Ray, the factors that led to the failure of one love, a battle

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of creative control between Diddy.

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And new addition strike one to the lead single did not reflect the

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group's maturity or the maturity of their audience and number three.

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And most importantly, there was probably just a lack of

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respect, a lack of respect for.

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Um, them as artists and for them as, as creative, um, creatives in this process.

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So yeah, guys, I hope you not, do you remember, is it clicking now?

Jay Ray:

You remember one love the album cover is, it's white.

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They're wearing baggy jeans, which is weird for new edition at that age.

Jay Ray:

Okay.

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So I do want to talk about that before we get out of here.

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That was also really interesting.

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So new edition has this

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baggy, like it's like

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DJ Sir Daniel: Is it Sean?

Jay Ray:

They're probably wearing Sean, John

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literally wearing Sean John and they got, so if you go back to

Jay Ray:

home again, they're all in suits, dah,

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: White suits.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

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in

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DJ Sir Daniel: Very classy.

Jay Ray:

right.

Jay Ray:

And at this, I'm like, so are they the locks now?

Jay Ray:

I'm not sure.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: They're looking like a combination of the locks and,

Jay Ray:

um, so for real at the point, not, not up to new edition standards.

Jay Ray:

Sorry guys, but I hope you enjoyed this episode of Queue Points podcast.

Jay Ray:

We enjoyed bringing it to you.

Jay Ray:

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Jay Ray:

We're amazing.

Jay Ray:

Daniel.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: This is Queue Points.

Jay Ray:

So listen, what do I always say in this life?

Jay Ray:

You have a choice.

Jay Ray:

You can either pick up the needle or you correct, you can let the record play.

Jay Ray:

I'm DJ Sir Daniel,

Jay Ray:

name is Jay Ray, y'all.

Jay Ray:

DJ Sir Daniel: and this has been Queue Points podcast, dropping

Jay Ray:

the needle on black music history.

Jay Ray:

We will see you on the next go round.

Jay Ray:

Peace.

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Queue Points
Queue Points is the Black Podcasting Award and Ambie Award nominated music podcast that is dropping the needle on Black Music history and celebrating Black music through meaningful dialogue. The show is hosted by DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray. Visit https://queuepoints.com to learn more.
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DJ Sir Daniel

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DJ Sir Daniel is a DJ/Selector and part of Atlanta's, all-vinyl crew, Wax Fundamentals. Co-host of the Queue Points podcast, he is an advocate for DJ culture and is passionate about creating atmospheres of inclusivity and jubilation from a Black perspective.

Jay Ray

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Johnnie Ray Kornegay III (Jay Ray) is a podcast consultant and co-host and producer of Queue Points, the Ambie Award-nominated podcast that drops the needle on Black music history. In addition to his duties at Queue Points, he is the Deputy Director of Strategy and Impact for CNP (Counter Narrative Project). A photographer, creative consultant and social commentator, Jay Ray's work is centered around a commitment to telling full and honest stories about communities often ignored.