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Episode 218

Neneh Cherry, Punk, Rap and the Making of a Black Icon

Neneh Cherry sits at the crossroads of punk, rap, pop, and Black music history, and this episode traces how she built a lane that still feels outside the box. DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray talk about her global roots, the Wild Bunch, “Buffalo Stance,” the Raw Like Sushi era, and the way her music moved through MTV, the clubs, and Black radio culture. They also get into the records, remixes, and collaborations that made her feel like more than a crossover act, but a real part of the conversation about legacy and cool. If you remember Video Music Box, long-box CDs, and the days when remixes changed everything, this one will take you right back.

The Breakdown

  1. How did Neneh Cherry’s background shape her sound? From Sweden to Sierra Leone to New York and London, her nomadic upbringing and artistic family gave her a sound that pulled from reggae, world music, punk, and U.S. hip-hop.
  2. Why did “Buffalo Stance” hit so hard? The song grew out of “Looking Good Diving with the Wild Bunch,” then broke wider through the video era, Video Music Box, MTV, and the pop-crossover moment of the late 1980s.
  3. What made Neneh Cherry more than a rapper or singer? The conversation gets into her activist edge, her genre-bending approach on records like Raw Like Sushi, Homebrew, and later projects, and why her work still feels connected to Black music history.

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Chapter Markers

00:00 Intro Theme

00:16 Welcome to the Show

00:45 Why Neneh Cherry Matters

01:40 Nomadic Roots and Punk London

05:05 From Wild Bunch to Buffalo Stance

07:04 Buffalo Stance Video Memories

13:44 90s Evolution and Buddy X Remix

20:23 Legacy Wrap and Listener Shoutouts

24:33 Outro Theme

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Transcript
Sir Daniel:

Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast.

Sir Daniel:

I am DJ Sir Daniel.

Jay Ray:

And my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my governments

Jay Ray:

as Johnnie Ray Kornegay III.

Jay Ray:

And uh, Sir Daniel, as we rap this year's Women's History Month, we

Jay Ray:

are about to talk about an artist that I consider one of the coolest

Jay Ray:

women on the planet Bar none.

Sir Daniel:

Absolutely cool factor on a thousand.

Sir Daniel:

You know, in the conversation about MCs that are, are hybrids that

Sir Daniel:

can both skillfully rap and sing.

Sir Daniel:

Neneh Cherry, for whatever reason, is left out of the conversation.

Sir Daniel:

And we've, we've known for close to 40 years now that Neneh

Sir Daniel:

Cherry is a death at doing both.

Sir Daniel:

And we have known of this woman now for, like I said, close, close to 40 years.

Sir Daniel:

And it all started off with a "Buffalo Stance", right?

Sir Daniel:

And Jay Ray.

Sir Daniel:

She is a product of tons and tons of, I'm sure, reggae music, all

Sir Daniel:

kinds of world music, and of course influences from the United States.

Sir Daniel:

And then we get Neneh Cherry coming to the United States

Sir Daniel:

for her Virgin Records debut.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, man.

Jay Ray:

Um, I find Neneh's story so fascinating and, um, so she, so her mother was from

Jay Ray:

Sweden and, um, her father was from Sierra Leone, her biological father.

Sir Daniel:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray:

And.

Jay Ray:

So she was born in, in Sweden and spent time there and her mother ended up, uh,

Jay Ray:

marrying Don Cherry, famed jazz musician.

Jay Ray:

And what I find so interesting about Neneh's.

Jay Ray:

Uh, story and it bleeds into the music, right.

Jay Ray:

To that point, she was, she had a very nomadic childhood.

Jay Ray:

of my favorite Neneh Cherry stories that she writes about in her book, A

Jay Ray:

Thousand Threads, that Neneh Cherry and her family were in Istanbul.

Jay Ray:

They were touring there and at the time, uh, 'cause they used to like tour in

Jay Ray:

a VW bus, so they would just like the,

Sir Daniel:

As one does

Jay Ray:

as one does.

Jay Ray:

So they would drive around to these different countries and, and be

Jay Ray:

on tour jazz musicians on tour.

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And her mom would be part of the, the act too.

Jay Ray:

But anyway, they were in Istanbul and they met James Baldwin.

Jay Ray:

'cause James Baldwin was living there at the time.

Sir Daniel:

Wow.

Jay Ray:

She tells this great story about James Baldwin, just like.

Jay Ray:

Talking to her and, and not talking at her like sometimes adults do, and

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how she remembered how kind he was.

Jay Ray:

But that encapsulates the of Neneh Cherry is she grows up in there, was.

Jay Ray:

Art at every point in her life.

Jay Ray:

Her mother's an artist.

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Her, her father, biological father's an artist.

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Her stepfather's an artist.

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So there was this in her blood right from the very beginning.

Jay Ray:

And to that point of the musical side of things, they, they of course, moved to.

Jay Ray:

They, they moved to New York, so she spends a bunch of time in New

Jay Ray:

York because Don moves to New York.

Jay Ray:

Neneh goes to London, so she's a teenager, leaves New York,

Jay Ray:

goes to London as one does,

Sir Daniel:

Right.

Jay Ray:

and gets in with the punk crowd.

Jay Ray:

So she is this biracial, um, uh, girl.

Jay Ray:

She's a girl at the time.

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Gets in with the punk crowd and starts to hang out.

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Hang out with members of the slits.

Jay Ray:

She befriends Ari up, who's a big, the slits are a huge group at the

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time, blending sky and punk and reggae and all of that to the point.

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So Neneh starts to perform.

Jay Ray:

In these groups.

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And so she shows up in 1981 is kind of in Europe the first time that

Jay Ray:

Neneh starts to appear on songs.

Jay Ray:

So she's on my love with the New age steppers, which, and

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all of these groups overlap.

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So like the slits are doing a thing, but they with another

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group, so they're on that album.

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And so Neneh's on the album too.

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But then she joins a group called, uh, Rip Rig + Panic.

Jay Ray:

They become a whole thing in Europe, but they're doing like

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punk and sky and all of that stuff.

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And so she's in that well and, and leading into kind of the way that we know Neneh,

Jay Ray:

in the, the mid eighties the Wild Bunch

Jay Ray:

they're one of the big sound systems.

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There's just a group of DJs.

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They do parties everywhere and.

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She appears on a song called, uh, "Looking Good Diving with the Wild Bunch"

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where Neneh is rapping on it.

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gets heard by another DJ and they decide to remix that song,

Jay Ray:

and that song ultimately becomes what we know as "Buffalo Stance".

Jay Ray:

And that's the first time I think both you and I discover Neneh Cherry.

Jay Ray:

do you remember about "Buffalo Stance"?

Jay Ray:

'cause you probably saw the video before you heard the song.

Jay Ray:

What do you remember about that song?

Sir Daniel:

Okay, so let me first say this.

Sir Daniel:

Um, I'm so glad that you gave that backstory on Neneh, on her, her, um,

Sir Daniel:

her childhood and the, the path that her parents took her on, which ultimately

Sir Daniel:

led her to being a badass rockstar.

Sir Daniel:

You know, um, I have to admit.

Sir Daniel:

In the moment of transparency, Jerry, sometimes I, when I hear stories like

Sir Daniel:

that, sometimes I kind of wish I grew up like that, you know, because I,

Sir Daniel:

I, I feel like it just automatically makes you a, it makes you cooler

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and you know, it automatically, I don't know, ups your, your, your,

Sir Daniel:

your, your skill and whatever it is you do, but I just, I just find

Sir Daniel:

that, that kind of life fascinating.

Sir Daniel:

Now I know.

Sir Daniel:

You know, it probably would not have worked out for me.

Sir Daniel:

'cause my personality, I'm very type A, I

Jay Ray:

You don't want to be in the VW bus touring

Jay Ray:

ser.

Sir Daniel:

Not as an adult, I'm sure as a child when if I, when I

Sir Daniel:

was a lot shorter, it would've been fine, but not as an, not as an adult.

Sir Daniel:

But fast forward to I think about 89, I recall distinctly, um, seeing

Sir Daniel:

this video on video music box.

Sir Daniel:

'cause remember, as I've said numerous times, we did not have cable in Brooklyn

Sir Daniel:

at that time, or at least I didn't.

Sir Daniel:

And the only time that I saw music videos was on Friday night videos or.

Sir Daniel:

Video Music Box hosted by Ralph McDaniel, and this video would play

Sir Daniel:

only on, at the beginning, would only play on Fridays because that's when

Sir Daniel:

he would do all hip hop on Fridays.

Sir Daniel:

And I just remember being struck at how.

Sir Daniel:

How colorful the video looked.

Sir Daniel:

Um, I automatically felt, I could automatically tell

Sir Daniel:

this has a, a UK feel to it.

Sir Daniel:

Before I even heard her, I saw the visuals and I was like, this isn't,

Sir Daniel:

this isn't giving, uh, Elmhurst Queens.

Sir Daniel:

This is definitely from across the pond.

Sir Daniel:

And I immediately liked it because as I've mentioned before, I have this.

Sir Daniel:

I've always had this attraction to, to things uk, to Britain, to

Sir Daniel:

British pop, all of that good stuff.

Sir Daniel:

And so just, yeah, just remembering how vibrant the video was.

Sir Daniel:

Um, her flow, her flow was ridiculous.

Sir Daniel:

Her flow was immaculate.

Sir Daniel:

Um.

Sir Daniel:

though in her look I can, you can always tell that in the UK when it came to hip

Sir Daniel:

hop, they kind of were like a little, just a little bit behind, but they, when

Sir Daniel:

they were put on as far as their drip is concerned, uh, as far as representing

Sir Daniel:

for hip hop, they literally would take.

Sir Daniel:

Like whatever stereotype or whatever, um, the blueprint of

Sir Daniel:

B boys and B girls was, and they would like crank that up 10 times.

Sir Daniel:

Like they always had a good sneaker on, um, what they call trainers, um, a, a nice

Sir Daniel:

velo suit or whatever type of, um, sweats.

Sir Daniel:

They love sweats.

Sir Daniel:

And I just, you know, just recall the fashion.

Sir Daniel:

And another thing that stuck out to me were those two girls that

Sir Daniel:

were dancing, backup for her.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Sir Daniel:

That were, that were doing the very rigid motions

Sir Daniel:

and, you know, and making faces.

Sir Daniel:

And I was like, huh.

Sir Daniel:

This is a, this is a departure from the hip hop that I've come

Sir Daniel:

to know and understand here in the, in the United States.

Sir Daniel:

But she, I don't recall ever.

Sir Daniel:

Purchasing the album.

Sir Daniel:

I don't know what kept me from buying it, but I do recall enjoying the song.

Sir Daniel:

I do recall the moment that it took off

Sir Daniel:

and when MCV picked it up, it was no longer just like a hip

Sir Daniel:

hop thing, an underground thing.

Sir Daniel:

I mean, it was.

Sir Daniel:

Everywhere.

Sir Daniel:

And I think that was the summer that I moved.

Sir Daniel:

We moved to Florida and finally got cable, finally got BET.

Sir Daniel:

So I was able to see all of the what, what became pop crossover hits,

Sir Daniel:

or what was considered pop crossover hits for or for the MTV audience.

Sir Daniel:

And Neneh Cherry was in that.

Sir Daniel:

In that mix, you know, Neneh Cherry was in the mix with the, uh, with your tone

Sir Daniel:

locs and your, um, young MCs, your, your hammers, your um, your vanilla ices.

Sir Daniel:

You know, in that moment, this is when it was like, oh, hip hop is,

Sir Daniel:

hip hop is doing something here.

Sir Daniel:

And Neneh Cherry is one of the very few women, um, with a hip

Sir Daniel:

hop background or a hip hop.

Sir Daniel:

Background assigned to her

Sir Daniel:

because she'll tell you, she'll probably tell you that she was not

Sir Daniel:

like mc was not just her only title.

Sir Daniel:

Like I said in the beginning, she's one of those people that

Sir Daniel:

can do both, um, and do both well.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, I, I absolutely agree.

Jay Ray:

And you know, I remember vividly.

Jay Ray:

Seeing the video and having the

Jay Ray:

same feeling you had of like, Ooh, this, first of all, the um.

Jay Ray:

I love a pop sensibility, like when you can give me a a, a a,

Jay Ray:

a hard thing, but you could like add like some pop cutesy to it.

Jay Ray:

Jay Ray is always gonna have like a soft spot for, for that.

Jay Ray:

And I felt like "Buffalo Stance" balanced those two things really well.

Jay Ray:

So you had, you had hip hop at its foundation, but the synths

Jay Ray:

on top of it also felt, um, very, uh, pop and new wave, which.

Jay Ray:

Totally into and totally is Neneh's background,

Sir Daniel:

And shout out to the dj.

Sir Daniel:

The dj, cutting on that record,

Sir Daniel:

clean,

Sir Daniel:

really clean cuts on that record,

Jay Ray:

Absolutely.

Jay Ray:

So I was, uh, immediately a huge fan.

Jay Ray:

And um, I remember, so back then, Sir Daniel, and you'll recall

Jay Ray:

this, back in the olden days, kids

Sir Daniel:

the

Jay Ray:

one, we bought CDs in the store, and I remember

Jay Ray:

this CD was in the long box.

Sir Daniel:

Mm.

Jay Ray:

And of course Neneh is on the the wet hair and the big dollar

Jay Ray:

chain medallion, and she's got her biker shorts and the bra on.

Jay Ray:

Look at very 1989 and it was called Raw

Jay Ray:

like sushi.

Jay Ray:

I didn't have a reference point for what sushi was, but

Jay Ray:

I knew it sounded cool, and I

Jay Ray:

knew she looked cool and I knew I liked the video, but I will say.

Jay Ray:

W um, what endeared me to her is in my growth as an activist.

Jay Ray:

She, I distinctly remember when MTV played, I Got You Under My skin for

Jay Ray:

the first time, and to hear the word aids come out of like a rapper's mouth.

Jay Ray:

And that video was dope and she's in all blue and I'm like, oh, I can.

Jay Ray:

Be an activist and make music like that's a thing you can do.

Jay Ray:

And it was the first time that for me it clicked that it wasn't just all about the

Jay Ray:

music, like you could do so much more.

Jay Ray:

And I think that was the thing that really endeared me.

Jay Ray:

So she was not only cool, she was not only rapping and singing, she was not

Jay Ray:

only not from here, although she, you know, was living in New York at the time.

Jay Ray:

She was also like, no, I'm speaking up for something that matters.

Jay Ray:

And so it was way deeper for me than just the music

Jay Ray:

when it came to Neneh.

Sir Daniel:

Awesome.

Jay Ray:

yeah.

Jay Ray:

I, um, as we move, so the nineties changed things, so Neneh

Jay Ray:

up at the end of the eighties.

Jay Ray:

Hip hop sounds a certain way

Sir Daniel:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray:

and everything is moving so quickly.

Jay Ray:

Um.

Jay Ray:

Everything.

Jay Ray:

Like there's a lot more women on the scene.

Jay Ray:

There's a lot more different kinds of rappers.

Jay Ray:

Like we now have a tribe called Quest.

Jay Ray:

We now have leaders of the new school showing up, right?

Jay Ray:

So there's all these different things, and what I loved is Neneh.

Jay Ray:

into this new mode.

Jay Ray:

So she's adopting that jazzy flow and that feel by way of

Jay Ray:

her association with gang star.

Jay Ray:

And of course we get, we get the second record and then it shows

Jay Ray:

up with Sassy, where you got Guru and Neneh on a track together.

Jay Ray:

And then Home Brew shows up where it's, to me.

Jay Ray:

The record that I'm like, oh yeah, yeah.

Jay Ray:

This girl right here is like dope.

Jay Ray:

Um, she's got the, the, she's singing and she's rapping.

Jay Ray:

But you got Guru on it.

Jay Ray:

You got DJ Premier on it.

Jay Ray:

Um, and then you have this sneaky song that we get a video for

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called "Buddy X" that shows up.

Sir Daniel:

You know that "Buddy X", first of all, you wanna talk about

Sir Daniel:

quintessential nineties looked like a gap commercial because everybody had

Sir Daniel:

on some form of it looked like, it literally looked like a gap commercial

Sir Daniel:

because she had every type of woman.

Sir Daniel:

S um, shade, shape, size, um, hair textures, everything.

Sir Daniel:

I didn't know at the time what the subject matter of the, the

Jay Ray:

None of us did.

Sir Daniel:

None of us did.

Sir Daniel:

And 'cause I was like, huh, you know, clearly she's talking about a dude.

Sir Daniel:

And it was a very, the video is very men versus women and, you know, they're

Sir Daniel:

kicking around a ball or they're throwing something at each other.

Sir Daniel:

I can't remember exactly what, but, um, yeah.

Sir Daniel:

So the record, it's, it lent.

Sir Daniel:

To the MTV landscape.

Sir Daniel:

Once again, the MTV soundscape once again.

Sir Daniel:

But it wasn't until recently Jay Ray that I pulled, um, I got my hands on

Sir Daniel:

the buddy, um, the "Buddy X" record.

Sir Daniel:

And lo and behold, there are these really dope remixes.

Sir Daniel:

There's some really dope house remixes on there, I gotta tell you that you

Sir Daniel:

would flip for, but there's also.

Sir Daniel:

A Jeep remix.

Sir Daniel:

'cause you know, everything in the, in the mid nineties was about Jeeps

Sir Daniel:

and boom, booming in the Jeeps.

Sir Daniel:

And there is a remix from an up and coming rapper from Brooklyn, who at

Sir Daniel:

the time we called Biggie Smalls.

Sir Daniel:

But of course we got to know him as a notorious BIG, and I was like, hold up.

Sir Daniel:

Why am I just now finding out about this, this.

Sir Daniel:

Remix is tough.

Sir Daniel:

Biggie's verse is quintessential biggie.

Sir Daniel:

But the record is so tough.

Sir Daniel:

Jay Ray, it's so tough and I wish, and I want more people to hear about it

Sir Daniel:

that remix was so tough because, you know, at the time, you know,

Sir Daniel:

we were east coast stomping

Sir Daniel:

and it automatically, it, hearing somebody sing over boom

Sir Daniel:

bat beats is, is just a treat.

Sir Daniel:

You had people like Neneh singing over beats like that.

Sir Daniel:

You had your, um, your lashes, uh, you had KRS, you know, you had

Sir Daniel:

KRS one's wife, Simone g Simone, singing over beats like that.

Sir Daniel:

So I, I, that's why that I was attracted to that particular

Sir Daniel:

remix and just how it flowed.

Sir Daniel:

And of course.

Sir Daniel:

you know, being quintessential big, you know, coming through,

Sir Daniel:

coming through on the track.

Sir Daniel:

He's unmistakable with his, um, with his flow and his rhyme is, is elite.

Sir Daniel:

It's just a really dope remix and also just solidifies how important remixes

Sir Daniel:

were to us back in the nineties that made that song completely different.

Sir Daniel:

It was the same.

Sir Daniel:

Same subject matter, same dope subject matter, same.

Sir Daniel:

You know, Neneh Cherry doing her thing, but you could drop that in in the

Sir Daniel:

tunnel, you could drop that and people will rhyme over that and decipher.

Sir Daniel:

It is crazy.

Sir Daniel:

I love that.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, you know what?

Jay Ray:

I hadn't even thought of this, but.

Jay Ray:

You are absolutely right.

Jay Ray:

So even when we think about, um, "Buffalo Stance", right?

Jay Ray:

The fact that "Buffalo Stance" is actually a remix of, you know, "Looking

Jay Ray:

Good Diving with the Wild Bunch", right?

Jay Ray:

That idea of.

Jay Ray:

A producer or dj hearing a song and being inspired and being inspired enough to

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be like, Ooh, I hear something else in

Jay Ray:

this.

Jay Ray:

Let's see what we can do with, it matters so much and we

Jay Ray:

absolutely need more of that.

Jay Ray:

I think in, in the, in you about to

Sir Daniel:

music sphere?

Sir Daniel:

No, because when you think about it, if a DJ out in LA did not flip over

Sir Daniel:

tramp, we would've never gotten push it.

Sir Daniel:

The push that we know now.

Jay Ray:

So I, I think that is really, really important.

Jay Ray:

And when we look at the career of Neneh Cherry, which from the time we get

Jay Ray:

to know her, uh, for her first three albums, her first three solo albums,

Jay Ray:

there's Royal I Sushi, home Brew.

Jay Ray:

And then she does man after that.

Jay Ray:

Um.

Jay Ray:

Go back and check out, man.

Jay Ray:

For those people that haven't had it, um, haven't heard it, it's super dope.

Jay Ray:

But she definitely is an artist that took a break.

Jay Ray:

Right.

Jay Ray:

So there's, there's a l. But she's dropping singles every now

Jay Ray:

and again, um, mostly in the uk.

Jay Ray:

Um, what's interesting is one of my absolute favorite Neneh Cherry songs

Jay Ray:

happens in her gap, like in Her Off Gap, and it's a song called Twisted

Jay Ray:

Mess that comes out in like 98, 99.

Jay Ray:

It's on a soundtrack called like Best Laid Plans, and we'll make sure that we include

Jay Ray:

that in the description as well, but.

Jay Ray:

Neneh essentially takes this gap break where she apparently had

Jay Ray:

been trying to record it wasn't happening, so she just was like, eh.

Jay Ray:

I don't have to do that.

Jay Ray:

Right.

Jay Ray:

And then by the time she resurfaces in the early 2010s as a solo act,

Jay Ray:

um, she has this renewed vigor about who she is as an artist.

Jay Ray:

But I think what I, what I love so much is throughout her career, there are these.

Jay Ray:

Genre bending songs that go from punk all the way through jazz.

Jay Ray:

Like one of my favorite Neneh Cherry collab albums is called a The Cherry

Jay Ray:

Thing, which is a collaboration between a jazz band, the Thing and Her, which

Jay Ray:

is kind of her really resurfacing.

Jay Ray:

And you get all of that in the career, right?

Jay Ray:

Because she's not afraid.

Jay Ray:

And so.

Jay Ray:

I love that we get to kind of experience that creative freedom, and I think we

Jay Ray:

need to champion more artists being free

Jay Ray:

with how they navigate their careers and the type of music that they create.

Jay Ray:

Neneh has kind flown by whatever it is she wants to do,

Jay Ray:

and.

Jay Ray:

There is not a Neneh Cherry project that I don't like, and it's you are

Jay Ray:

getting Neneh every time you get Neneh.

Sir Daniel:

This conversation just reminds me of that.

Sir Daniel:

Neneh is there is a through line.

Sir Daniel:

You can tell her bloodline.

Sir Daniel:

Her bloodline is kise.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Sir Daniel:

Her bloodline are the Santi Golds, you know.

Sir Daniel:

The, the, the Reeses people, the, the women that don't, aren't

Sir Daniel:

really adhering to anything, you know, anything conventional, but.

Sir Daniel:

They're forever cool.

Sir Daniel:

And they just know.

Sir Daniel:

They know good music.

Sir Daniel:

They know what the people are gonna like and they're always

Sir Daniel:

going to give it to you.

Sir Daniel:

And so I'm glad that we're taking this time to tip our hats, as it were to Neneh

Sir Daniel:

Cherry and just round out this black well we're, I don't care it Black women's.

Sir Daniel:

It

Jay Ray:

black women's history.

Jay Ray:

Month.

Sir Daniel:

Month, international month, you know, with Neneh Cherry.

Sir Daniel:

So I hope this reaches her and I hopes that she knows that these two

Sir Daniel:

blokes here on the state side really have dug what she has done over

Sir Daniel:

the years, the pa, the years, and just really wish the best for her.

Sir Daniel:

And thank you Jay Ray, for insisting that we big up.

Jay Ray:

Oh man.

Jay Ray:

No, sir. Daniel, thank you for, uh, saying no that this

Jay Ray:

is something that we should do.

Jay Ray:

And thank y'all for tuning in.

Jay Ray:

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We love y'all.

Sir Daniel:

That's right, and like I said, the end of every episode

Sir Daniel:

in this life, you have a choice.

Sir Daniel:

You can either pick up the needle or you could let the record play.

Sir Daniel:

I am DJ Sir Daniel,

Jay Ray:

And my name is Jay Ray.

Jay Ray:

Y'all,

Sir Daniel:

and this has been Queue Points podcast, dropping

Sir Daniel:

the needle on black music history.

Sir Daniel:

We will see you on the next go round.

Sir Daniel:

Looking good, hanging at the.

Jay Ray:

peace out y'all.

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DJ Sir Daniel

DJ Sir Daniel is a DJ/Selector and part of Atlanta's, all-vinyl crew, Wax Fundamentals. Co-host of the Queue Points podcast, he is an advocate for DJ culture and is passionate about creating atmospheres of inclusivity and jubilation from a Black perspective.

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Jay Ray

Johnnie Ray Kornegay III (Jay Ray) is a podcast consultant and co-host and producer of Queue Points, the Ambie Award-nominated podcast that drops the needle on Black music history. In addition to his duties at Queue Points, he is the Deputy Director of Strategy and Impact for CNP (Counter Narrative Project). A photographer, creative consultant and social commentator, Jay Ray's work is centered around a commitment to telling full and honest stories about communities often ignored.