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Episode 215

From “I Wanna Be Down” to “Ladies Night”: Classic Women in Rap Posse Cuts

DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray pull up a chair for a women’s history cypher, tracing how Black women MCs turned 90s remixes and rap features into full-on posse cuts that still ring off at cookouts and girls’ nights. From Brandy’s “I Wanna Be Down” remix to Lil’ Kim’s “Not Tonight (Ladies Night),” they connect the songs we know by heart to label politics, video memories, and why we do not hear records like this much anymore.

In this episode, they talk through:

  • Why “Ladies First” is a classic, but not really a posse cut, and what actually counts as one when you grew up on mixtapes and radio rap debates.​
  • How Brandy’s “I Wanna Be Down” hip hop remix, Total’s “No One Else” remix, and Lil’ Kim’s “Not Tonight (Ladies Night)” flipped R&B joints into rap cyphers for Black women MCs like Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Yo-Yo, Foxy Brown, Da Brat, Left Eye and Missy Elliott.​
  • The lesser-known women posse cuts, like DJ Big Kap’s “Da Ladies in Da House” and Bahamadia’s “3 the Hard Way,” and what they reveal about the 90s backpack and Northeast rap scenes.​
  • Joi’s “Freedom,” the Panther soundtrack, and how the R&B and rap versions pulled together voices like SWV, TLC, Vanessa Williams, Queen Latifah, Patra, Salt-N-Pepa and more around Black freedom, care and protest.​
  • Why women posse cuts faded, from industry separation and money to today’s feature economy, and what it would look like to see that spirit of unity and collaboration return.​

If you grew up recording videos off BET, arguing over who had the best verse, or learning the words to “Ladies Night” with your cousins, this one will feel like digging back through the CD book and remembering who was really there.

Is there a women-led posse cut you feel never gets mentioned but still lives rent-free in your head?

Detailed Show Notes: https://link.queuepoints.com/show-215-notes

Links to Content Related To This Episode For Research and Context

Chapter Markers

00:00 Intro Theme

00:16 Welcome to the Show

02:29 What Counts as Posse Cut

04:57 Brandy - "I Wanna Be Down" (Human Rhythm Remix) featuring Queen Latifah, MC Lyte and Yo Yo

07:22 Total - "No One Else" Remix featuring Lil Kim, Foxy Brown and Da Brat

11:09 Lil Kim - "Not Tonight" Remix (Ladies Night) featuring Angie Martinez, Left Eye, Da Brat and Missy Elliott

17:23 Big Kap - "Da Ladies in Da House" featuring Bahamadia, Precise, Treep, Uneek and Lauryn Hill

22:37 Bahamadia - "3 the Hard Way" featuring Mecca Starr and K-Swift

23:21 Bahamadia Kollage Era

24:01 "3 the Hard Way" Breakdown

27:13 Discussing the origins of Joi's "Freedom"

29:25 "Freedom" Featuring R&B All Stars

30:30 "Freedom" Rap Remix Featuring Hip Hop All Stars

35:30 Why Posse Cuts Faded

40:41 Erykah Badu - "Love of My Life Worldwide" featuring Queen Latifah, Angie Stone, and Bahamadia

42:45 Final Thanks Sign Off

44:17 Outro Theme

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Transcript
Sir Daniel:

Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast.

Sir Daniel:

I am DJ Sir Daniel.

Jay Ray:

and my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government.

Jay Ray:

It's Johnnie Ray Kornegay III, and I will not hit the mic again.

Jay Ray:

It's in a weird spot 'cause I'm not at my spot.

Sir Daniel:

You are not in your usual spot, but that's okay because we are a

Sir Daniel:

fully mobile and fully functioning podcast no matter where we go in this world.

Sir Daniel:

As a matter of fact, that lets you know that you can invite Queue Points

Sir Daniel:

anywhere in the world to do our podcast and talk to whoever we need to talk to.

Sir Daniel:

But Jay Ray, it's March.

Sir Daniel:

That means this International Woman's History Month.

Sir Daniel:

And you know, here at Queue Points, we are squarely in support of the

Sir Daniel:

ladies and women that have truly laid down a path and a foundation

Sir Daniel:

for what it means to be a woman, specifically a black woman in music.

Sir Daniel:

And today we're gonna talk about black women in hip hop specifically.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Jay Ray:

Um, one of the things that I think we don't say enough is I think we

Jay Ray:

treat women in hip hop as like.

Jay Ray:

Ancillary to men or somehow behind men.

Jay Ray:

And, uh, we recognized this when we went to, uh, see, uh, the exhibit as they were

Jay Ray:

getting ready to open the, um, the hip hop museum in New York, in the Bronx.

Jay Ray:

At the very beginning, every crew had a woman or women who were part of them.

Jay Ray:

And these women were typically like.

Jay Ray:

Family members of the MCs or they were like, uh, uh, uh, you know,

Jay Ray:

in relationships with the MCs, but they were integral to the crew.

Jay Ray:

It wasn't like separate from the crew was part of the crew.

Jay Ray:

And, um, I feel like in hip hop we need to.

Jay Ray:

Uh, center women as much as we center men.

Jay Ray:

And so when we're talking about like best MCs, we need to really think critically

Jay Ray:

about, but who are all the MCs, right?

Jay Ray:

And where do all the people fit in?

Jay Ray:

Oftentimes some of these a sisters, and we are about to talk about

Jay Ray:

some dope ones in this show.

Sir Daniel:

That's correct.

Sir Daniel:

And con, so like a lot of the conversations that are had in regards

Sir Daniel:

around to hip hop and surrounding hip hop is like, of course the top five

Sir Daniel:

conversation, top five dead are alive.

Sir Daniel:

And then some people make, um, special consideration for women mc.

Sir Daniel:

And say, well, what's your top five women MCs?

Sir Daniel:

They have to make a, a specific lane for it, and oftentimes it's the same

Sir Daniel:

names recycled over and over again.

Sir Daniel:

Nothing wrong with the people, with the, um, people that they're

Sir Daniel:

discussing, but there are a lot of names that are often left out.

Sir Daniel:

And sometimes there's also a conversation about posse cuts.

Sir Daniel:

And immediately when people say Posse cuts, they automatically go to.

Sir Daniel:

Queen Latifah and Monie Love's "Ladies First".

Sir Daniel:

Now I am, I have a little pushback when it comes to that because as anthemic

Sir Daniel:

as "Ladies First" is to this day, a powerful, powerful tune that cannot

Sir Daniel:

be denied and is, is definitely a battle cry for, uh, for black women

Sir Daniel:

specifically in any situation, in any, um.

Sir Daniel:

In any category that they're living and working in and existing in

Sir Daniel:

"Ladies First" is definitely an anthemic tune that needs to be

Sir Daniel:

celebrated, but it is not a posse cut.

Sir Daniel:

It is not

Jay Ray:

Why, why do you, why do you say that, sir

Sir Daniel:

I say that because it's a, it's a feature.

Sir Daniel:

It's a, it's a feature cut.

Sir Daniel:

It's an artist featuring another dope artist.

Sir Daniel:

And no, again, nothing wrong with the song, but it is not

Sir Daniel:

a posse cut, in my opinion.

Sir Daniel:

In the dj, sir Daniel opinion, a posse cut is when three or more are

Sir Daniel:

gathered, Uhhuh three or more are gathered and the, and the Holy Spirit

Sir Daniel:

of hip hop will enter the room and it, and it will deem this a posse cut

Jay Ray:

It'll be blessed then as a posse could.

Sir Daniel:

A posse cut.

Sir Daniel:

And so I wanted to start off the conversation, um, with that, because

Sir Daniel:

we tend to, first thing they say is, oh, um, queen Latif and ammo you love.

Sir Daniel:

Dope feature song, but not a posse Cut.

Sir Daniel:

And what we are about to discuss is some posse cuts that are, there are

Sir Daniel:

some that are highly celebrated and others that are not celebrated enough.

Sir Daniel:

And so I think we should start with one that I think everybody always goes

Sir Daniel:

to is the default Posse cut, which is the, "I Wanna Be Down" remix, featuring

Sir Daniel:

Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, and Yo-Yo.

Jay Ray:

Yes.

Jay Ray:

Um, so.

Jay Ray:

What's interesting about this is, I think at the time when this was released, it's

Jay Ray:

funny, me being in this seat talking about this song, knowing that I work

Jay Ray:

with Kipper Wright, um, but I'm gonna talk about it from the fan's perspective,

Jay Ray:

um, when this song was released.

Jay Ray:

This is following, um, the experience that we had had with, um, Craig Mack

Jay Ray:

and the "Flava in Your Ear" remix.

Jay Ray:

So our ears had gotten tuned to what a bunch of people, uh, on a song and in this

Jay Ray:

part of the nineties would sound like.

Jay Ray:

We had of course, experienced a posse cut before that when we look at the

Jay Ray:

scenario and like all of these things.

Jay Ray:

But this was like something different.

Jay Ray:

And so when "I Wanna Be Down", came out, which was banger R&B.

Jay Ray:

Cut.

Jay Ray:

Right.

Jay Ray:

I don't think, I never would've imagined that they would flip

Jay Ray:

that into a hip hop Posse.

Jay Ray:

Cut.

Jay Ray:

So, of course, uh, the song, um, the original version, "I Wanna Be

Jay Ray:

Down," written by Kipper Jones and produced by um, um, Keith Crouch.

Jay Ray:

Um, they take Keith's production, and they strip down on this hip hop remix.

Jay Ray:

So you still get the pieces of Brandy doing the thing, and one

Jay Ray:

Brandy's like a little girl.

Jay Ray:

So you get like the 14-year-old little sister who's like anchoring the song.

Jay Ray:

And then you get like her big sisters like coming into like.

Jay Ray:

Wreck shop on this thing.

Jay Ray:

And so of course we open with Lyte.

Jay Ray:

Yo-yo is the anchor middle, and then Queen Latifah is like the gut punch.

Jay Ray:

Big Teef is gut punching at the end.

Sir Daniel:

Yeah.

Sir Daniel:

You know, so yes.

Sir Daniel:

Um, what this song solidifies is that.

Sir Daniel:

can actually become completely different songs from the original.

Sir Daniel:

So, you know what, since we're in this lane, we gotta follow up with another, um,

Sir Daniel:

hip hop remix to an already popular, um, a popular R&B song by Bad Boy recording

Sir Daniel:

artists total who had hit the scene and was already smashing it with their,

Sir Daniel:

"Can't You See" song, which was all over the place, but then they followed up

Sir Daniel:

with "No One [Else]" which features the, the BDP sample of the "South Bronx".

Sir Daniel:

And originally had a feature of Da Brat.

Sir Daniel:

Well, he who shall not be named, uh, was, was brilliant at putting to, we

Sir Daniel:

can't take away the fact that he was brilliant at producing A&Ring projects

Sir Daniel:

and he thought it would be a good idea.

Sir Daniel:

To take three of the dopest female MCs at the moment and put them on the remix.

Sir Daniel:

So we gotta give props to the no one else remix, featuring Da

Sir Daniel:

Brat, Foxy Brown and Lil Kim.

Sir Daniel:

Yes.

Sir Daniel:

Kids.

Sir Daniel:

I said Foxy Brown and Lil Kim.

Sir Daniel:

This song goes down in history as the only song that little Kim and

Sir Daniel:

Foxy Brown are featured on together.

Sir Daniel:

And I think Jay Ray for that alone makes this a very powerful remix to this song.

Sir Daniel:

But what are your thoughts on the no one else remix?

Jay Ray:

Um, one of the hardest.

Jay Ray:

Remixes in hip, in, in, in, in hip hop, and R&B history.

Jay Ray:

So from everybody's intro.

Jay Ray:

Foxy killed it.

Jay Ray:

Like you remember all of their intros.

Jay Ray:

Brown and, uh, chromed out what bubble in laying up with the Columbia.

Sir Daniel:

Colombian, she loved the Colombian

Jay Ray:

She loved the Columbia back then.

Jay Ray:

And then many people tell me my style is terrific.

Jay Ray:

What?

Sir Daniel:

This tremendous,

Jay Ray:

Listen.

Sir Daniel:

and her dancing in front of big at the time,

Sir Daniel:

that was so dope, so dope.

Jay Ray:

so dope and, and of course Da Brat at the time

Jay Ray:

was Hip hop's ace the Hole.

Jay Ray:

So there is something that we, uh, forget about.

Jay Ray:

If you wanted your song to like pop, you throw Da Brat on it because

Jay Ray:

it was bound to like do something.

Jay Ray:

Her flavor at the time was kind of what hip hop, the energy and the, the, the,

Jay Ray:

the intensity of her rhyming style was the thing that people clamored for.

Jay Ray:

So you put these three women, actually Kim and Fox, they're like young girls.

Sir Daniel:

Yes.

Jay Ray:

On this track along with total who, as you said, had the style

Jay Ray:

was already popping and it's, and, and when you think about it, it's

Jay Ray:

like three, I'm sorry, six women with like completely different styles,

Jay Ray:

like, and the way that they show up in the world, all on this remix.

Jay Ray:

It was crazy.

Jay Ray:

The, the, the production was hard.

Jay Ray:

They stripped it down once again to leave room for the rappers

Jay Ray:

to be able to do their thing.

Jay Ray:

By far one of the hardest songs.

Jay Ray:

It remixes in particular in hip hop history.

Jay Ray:

Undeniably good?

Sir Daniel:

Undeniably good for sure.

Sir Daniel:

A posse cut.

Sir Daniel:

There's a video.

Sir Daniel:

Lil Kim and Foxy Brown are actually in a video together in in, in, in funner times.

Sir Daniel:

It's so historic for sure.

Sir Daniel:

And, um, again, proof that a song can be completely remixed.

Sir Daniel:

This is back when remixes were remixes, the remix could stand

Sir Daniel:

alone up against the original song.

Sir Daniel:

And you know what?

Sir Daniel:

Let, let's round it out with, um, another very powerful, very radio friendly.

Sir Daniel:

The original song is not radio friendly at all.

Sir Daniel:

Not

Jay Ray:

at all the, they're to the remix is totally different from the

Jay Ray:

radio, from the, from the original.

Sir Daniel:

The, the hardcore album version of Lil Kim's "Not Tonight" is a

Sir Daniel:

germane dupre production, um, stripped down, um, sample of George Benson's.

Sir Daniel:

Um, uh, so your love turn your love around.

Jay Ray:

love around.

Jay Ray:

Mm-hmm.

Sir Daniel:

It's very bare bones, very racy lyrics.

Sir Daniel:

Um, but unforgettable.

Sir Daniel:

But unforgettable because it's Lil Kim.

Sir Daniel:

This song is featured on the Nothing to Lose.

Sir Daniel:

The Remix is featured on The Nothing to Lose Soundtrack.

Sir Daniel:

Martin Lawrence and Tim Robbins, buddy Cop.

Sir Daniel:

Um.

Sir Daniel:

Feature film and this remix comes out of nowhere.

Sir Daniel:

First of all, we get a cool in the gang sample of, um, "Ladies Night", and people

Sir Daniel:

often refer to this remix as posse, cut as "Ladies Night" instead of "Not Tonight"

Sir Daniel:

the remix because the hook is that strong.

Sir Daniel:

And we've got featuring Angie Martinez, who is.

Sir Daniel:

Hip hop radio royalty, an icon in her own right who to this day

Sir Daniel:

will never claim to be a rapper.

Sir Daniel:

She's like, look, I dunno what y'all were thinking about giving

Sir Daniel:

me a a a a record deal back then.

Sir Daniel:

She's like, I, she cringes at the thought of her rapping back then, but

Sir Daniel:

she's very credible on this remix.

Sir Daniel:

And some will say it was a political move because it was an

Sir Daniel:

automatic entree into radio in searching into to rotation for sure.

Sir Daniel:

But Angie Martinez, um, little Kim who, who doesn't open the song and

Sir Daniel:

doesn't close it, she comes, she comes in second, but still manages

Sir Daniel:

to body it because she's Kim.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Sir Daniel:

And I think that's, I think that's a testament to her.

Sir Daniel:

And just her being comfortable.

Sir Daniel:

And you could tell that there was a familiarity in this moment with

Sir Daniel:

these ladies because each of them, to your, to your point earlier, are

Sir Daniel:

able to come in and do an intro into the song and p, it's very memorable.

Sir Daniel:

Everybody has an intro that's very, very memorable, especially

Sir Daniel:

number three on the list.

Sir Daniel:

Left eye.

Jay Ray:

Oh my God, yes.

Jay Ray:

Left eye, um, is of course in this song and, okay, so this is actually,

Jay Ray:

we will, we will, uh, uh, mention this now because it's consistent.

Jay Ray:

The other thing.

Jay Ray:

That makes this video very unique.

Jay Ray:

And Sir Daniel, you did something with this specifically, is we get all the

Jay Ray:

iconic Lil Kim looks in this video.

Jay Ray:

So the four iconic Lil Kim looks.

Jay Ray:

When we think of Lil Kim in the nineties, there's typically like a

Jay Ray:

look on your face about what that was.

Jay Ray:

That idea probably came from the music video of the "Not Tonight"

Jay Ray:

remix because Lil Kim was changing her looks throughout the whole thing.

Jay Ray:

Um, but left Eye.

Jay Ray:

Um, of course appears on this song, which, and this is interesting, right,

Jay Ray:

because this is post crazy, sexy cool.

Jay Ray:

So, TLC has won all the Grammys in the world.

Jay Ray:

They have also started arguing with their record labels about not

Jay Ray:

getting paid and each other, right?

Jay Ray:

So they, they were pretty much.

Jay Ray:

It's kind of doing their solo things at this point.

Jay Ray:

And so left eye appears and everybody always loved left eye as an mc solo.

Jay Ray:

That was like always a thing.

Jay Ray:

Um, of course on this we have Da Brat again, like all of these women, the.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Jay Ray:

Like they weren't gonna have a joint without Brat on it.

Jay Ray:

Like it just wasn't going to be a thing.

Jay Ray:

So Brat again, and then iconic, uh, Missy Elliot who didn't produce

Jay Ray:

this, this was produced by Ringo.

Jay Ray:

Um, Rashad Smith produced this and I

Sir Daniel:

Tumbling, diced,

Jay Ray:

Yeah, Tumblin Dice did this joint.

Jay Ray:

And, um, so Missy Elliot is, is on here at the end as well.

Jay Ray:

So you have five.

Jay Ray:

Women on this song is that five?

Jay Ray:

Angie, Left Eye, Kim, Brat, Angie and Missy.

Jay Ray:

So you have five women on this joint and each of them carry and literally

Jay Ray:

the song exists in a world of its own.

Jay Ray:

It is often not affiliated.

Jay Ray:

To your earlier points, sir Daniel, with the original, it's an entity unto

Jay Ray:

itself and it became a huge hit for Lil

Sir Daniel:

A huge radio hit, which I think people, which makes people

Sir Daniel:

forget that it is in fact a posse.

Sir Daniel:

Cut.

Sir Daniel:

They're literally passing the mic to each other on this song.

Sir Daniel:

Um, yeah.

Sir Daniel:

And the video, the video must be mentioned because the video, like I said, this

Sir Daniel:

makes the song even more fun because we see these ladies in a fun environment

Sir Daniel:

and a luau kind of, um, environment.

Sir Daniel:

It's chock full of cameos.

Sir Daniel:

Mary J. Blige, Queen Latifah, um, Changing Faces, the the

Sir Daniel:

other ladies from the Xscape.

Sir Daniel:

I believe that, um, Tionne and Chili make A-A-A-A-A-A-A cameo in this video.

Sir Daniel:

And so it's a lot of the ladies from Atlantic Records and

Sir Daniel:

all the affiliated records.

Sir Daniel:

Foxy Brown's nowhere way to be found, but

Jay Ray:

Well, we had moved on.

Jay Ray:

We had moved to a different phase by then.

Sir Daniel:

We know why, but yes, that, that, um, qualifies "Not Tonight"

Sir Daniel:

to be in the list of standout Posse Cuts featuring, um, only women MCs.

Sir Daniel:

And so I think, so these are all huge, huge success records.

Sir Daniel:

Oh, me and BA, possibly crossover records.

Sir Daniel:

Pop popular, very popular.

Sir Daniel:

Cuts not for nothing, come from a culture of what we call the the backpack era.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Sir Daniel:

Of rapping.

Sir Daniel:

And so we have to dig a little deeper for some other posse cuts that may not

Sir Daniel:

have, um, been as popular, but still are very powerful and need to be mentioned.

Sir Daniel:

And I think we're gonna go here to, to Big Kap.

Sir Daniel:

DJ Big Kap, rest in peace for putting together, assembling, um, some

Sir Daniel:

kind of, they weren't.

Sir Daniel:

They were known MCs, but they weren't like crossover hit mega MCs.

Sir Daniel:

They were strictly like backpack like dudes would recognize these women

Sir Daniel:

and be like, oh yeah, she's fresh.

Sir Daniel:

'cause she'll be in the cipher and she'll be spitting.

Sir Daniel:

But the song opens up with Philly's own

Jay Ray:

yeah.

Jay Ray:

Bahamadia

Sir Daniel:

her own right of Bahamadia.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Jay Ray:

Um, who, we'll, we'll talk about again in a second, but, um, Bahamadia in this

Jay Ray:

moment in time, this is so interesting.

Jay Ray:

Like there was room for an artist, like a Bahamadia in this right?

Jay Ray:

Who is a woman Who did, literally her voice didn't sound like anybody else.

Jay Ray:

Her flow was completely different than what you would expect, but she was fresh

Jay Ray:

and she was u It was at the time when in hip hop you, your uniqueness was part

Jay Ray:

of the things that made you stand out.

Jay Ray:

And Bahamadia was, was, was that so.

Jay Ray:

Bahamadia was known because we had experienced Bahamadia One,

Jay Ray:

she'd been on roots uh, joints.

Jay Ray:

She was of course affiliated with Guru and Premier, so we, and she had

Jay Ray:

been on joints by then, so we were familiar with who Bahamadia was, and

Jay Ray:

she was on the cusp of being, you know, about to release her solo album.

Sir Daniel:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray:

Um, but then I think what's so interesting about this particular

Jay Ray:

song is there was a time folks when Lauryn Hill was not the superstar.

Jay Ray:

We know her to Lauryn Hill was just like a really dope rapper

Jay Ray:

at the time because in between.

Jay Ray:

But Lauren is Bodying remixes in between.

Jay Ray:

So The Fugees album had come out already, probably like two years, 93.

Jay Ray:

Um, but the, it didn't really hit, Lauryn started showing up on

Jay Ray:

stuff like left, right and center.

Jay Ray:

Lauryn Hill was rapping on everything and it was just like, that girl is something.

Jay Ray:

And this was one of those songs where she just kind of appeared.

Jay Ray:

So once again, you have this, this moment in time where an artist

Jay Ray:

that was like about to go crazy.

Sir Daniel:

So, what is so, um, it's a shame that more people don't recognize

Sir Daniel:

Uneek, because as I stated, um, this record was put together by Big Kap.

Sir Daniel:

Um, who at the time is part of.

Sir Daniel:

Uh, a posse of DJs 'cause DJs at this point we're heavy in the mix tape

Sir Daniel:

era and DJs like Big Kap, Funkmaster Flex before he blew up on the radio.

Sir Daniel:

Um, Biz Markie is considered a part of biz DJ Doo Wap.

Sir Daniel:

All of them are running in the syndicate and putting together mix tapes.

Sir Daniel:

And these mix tapes are ru running the streets.

Sir Daniel:

As far for new MCs up and coming MCs, you gotta be featured on a

Sir Daniel:

wot mixtape, a Big Kap, a Funk Flex Mixtape, you gotta be on it.

Sir Daniel:

And Uneek, was a steady fixture on those mix tapes and Uneek, um.

Sir Daniel:

Got some, she was put on the radio at times.

Sir Daniel:

Also when, um, I think when Angie Martinez and them got their own "Ladies

Sir Daniel:

Night" radio mix show at the time, um, Uneek is also featured on, um.

Sir Daniel:

Angie Martinez's, uh, debut album Uneek, um, is also part of the little

Sir Daniel:

known, um, group, the Ghetto Girls.

Sir Daniel:

If you, if you ever come across the Ghetto Girls full album or you can listen to

Sir Daniel:

it on iTunes, you will hear Uneek is a part of The Ghetto Girls, and also put

Sir Daniel:

a stamp on that she represented like.

Sir Daniel:

Strictly Rugged Street rhymes.

Sir Daniel:

Talking about razors in her hair the whole night.

Sir Daniel:

It was super grimy.

Sir Daniel:

Her voice, she comes, she comes from that line of when Onyx came out and

Sir Daniel:

everybody was talking like, you know, was,

Jay Ray:

Yes,

Sir Daniel:

rap really grimy, Uneek?

Sir Daniel:

Um, representative for the ladies in that faction and gave that, gave all

Sir Daniel:

of that personality to this record.

Sir Daniel:

So she really brought it to the streets.

Sir Daniel:

She was, um, the street representation.

Sir Daniel:

Shout out to the other two ladies on the track.

Sir Daniel:

Precise and trip.

Sir Daniel:

Um, not much is known outside of them being on this record, but five

Sir Daniel:

ladies, five women, um, on this record.

Sir Daniel:

Um, shout out to Biz Markie for the remix on the 12 inch single.

Sir Daniel:

I still prize that 12 inch single.

Sir Daniel:

It is really dope.

Sir Daniel:

And, um, yeah, um, Big Kap featuring Da Ladies, "Da Ladies in Da House".

Sir Daniel:

Is an underappreciated posse cut featuring female MCs, and

Sir Daniel:

we are going to go to another.

Sir Daniel:

Speaking of Bahamadia, I had to, I had to remind you about this joint on

Sir Daniel:

her album, her debut album collage, and you didn't even know there was

Sir Daniel:

an actual video for this, um, record.

Jay Ray:

literally have not seen the music video for "3 the Hard Way".

Jay Ray:

So, um, one reason you should subscribe to Queue Points as well

Jay Ray:

is Sir Daniel and I will watch it.

Jay Ray:

I have not seen it, so I have no frame of ref.

Jay Ray:

I can imagine what the video is like.

Jay Ray:

It's the mid nineties in a hip hop posse Cut.

Jay Ray:

But, um.

Jay Ray:

Fish.

Jay Ray:

Uh, right.

Jay Ray:

And it's a lot of, you know what I'm

Jay Ray:

Oh,

Sir Daniel:

In Philly, so yes.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jay Ray:

So that's kind of what I'm thinking it'll be.

Jay Ray:

But um, so we'll watch that video.

Jay Ray:

But, um, so, uh, Bahamadia um, Bahamadia's Kollage, which actually

Jay Ray:

goes down in history as, uh.

Jay Ray:

Uh, it's kind of the end of an era in a lot of ways.

Jay Ray:

Like you just will never get a album like that from a women, a woman mc.

Jay Ray:

It literally came out at the, of course, the same time as

Jay Ray:

Kim and Fox's record in 1990.

Jay Ray:

We are in the 30th anniversary of those records releasing.

Jay Ray:

We have to talk about all of this.

Jay Ray:

So, Bahamadia's Kollage comes out in this and.

Jay Ray:

One of the songs, uh, this song actually, uh, doesn't close the record, but it's

Jay Ray:

near the end of, uh, uh, the album.

Jay Ray:

Um, but "3 the Hard Way" of course appears and it's a, uh, hype track.

Jay Ray:

If I'm not mistaken, I think Premier produces "3 the Hard Way".

Jay Ray:

I will confirm that, but, uh, just a super solid, rapid rap.

Jay Ray:

Posse track that you probably are only familiar with if you are

Jay Ray:

from the Northeast region Right.

Jay Ray:

Or you're just like really into, uh, uh, uh, nineties hip hop.

Jay Ray:

So you probably have never heard this song and you should just

Jay Ray:

go and check out this joint.

Jay Ray:

'cause it's a, it's a jam.

Sir Daniel:

You make an interesting point about the Northeast, what's very, if

Sir Daniel:

we notice about all of these songs that we've mentioned, except for "I Wanna

Sir Daniel:

Be Down", and the last song that we're gonna discuss these songs are squarely.

Sir Daniel:

East coast, northeast, uh, east Coast, stomping rap records.

Sir Daniel:

Rapid rap as we like to say, rapid rap records.

Sir Daniel:

Um, even though Da Brat is from Chicago, we

Jay Ray:

Chicago.

Jay Ray:

Mm-hmm.

Sir Daniel:

gotta give, homage to that.

Sir Daniel:

But there was a, like you said, this, this is a very, a square, a very important.

Sir Daniel:

Part of time where even if you were not even striving for pop success and if you

Sir Daniel:

were striving for pop success, there's something very important about staying

Sir Daniel:

true to is this rap that I'm spending going to be dope and heralded as a.

Sir Daniel:

Lyricist Lyric type of song are the, are the people in the cipher

Sir Daniel:

going to rock with this rhyme?

Sir Daniel:

Are people gonna be like, oh yeah, she's fresh, she's nice.

Sir Daniel:

You still had to keep that in consideration even if you were rapping

Sir Daniel:

over cooling the gangs "Ladies Night" and this, which is squarely a pop

Sir Daniel:

record, but there, but that was something very specific to Posse Cuts.

Sir Daniel:

In the late nineties, um, moving forward that I think maybe part of the reason why,

Sir Daniel:

and we should probably discuss this at the end, why Posse cuts have kind of fallen

Sir Daniel:

off and nobody does Posse cuts anymore.

Jay Ray:

Oh, oh, I have a controversial reason for that.

Jay Ray:

But before we go to our final track, I do want to mention that.

Jay Ray:

So for "3 the Hard Way", of course, it's on Bahamadia's album, so Bahamadia

Sir Daniel:

Yes.

Jay Ray:

D um, uh.

Jay Ray:

Opens the song, I think,

Jay Ray:

um, and closes it.

Jay Ray:

So she's on.

Jay Ray:

She's um, and then we have K Swift and Mecca Star are

Jay Ray:

both, uh, on "3 the Hard Way".

Jay Ray:

Super dope track.

Jay Ray:

Go and listen to it.

Jay Ray:

It's very, very Philly sounding.

Jay Ray:

Um,

Sir Daniel:

very, in my opinion, Mecca Star, um, eats it up, Mecca Star.

Sir Daniel:

Kind of chew up everybody else on the record, but that's just my opinion.

Jay Ray:

And the last song that we're going to discuss

Jay Ray:

has a really unique history.

Jay Ray:

And so, uh, we'll talk about, uh, this particular, uh, song in a second.

Jay Ray:

But one of the things that.

Jay Ray:

Um, happens in 1993 and 1994.

Jay Ray:

Post TLC's, first record Dallas Austin, um, uh, formed some

Jay Ray:

record labels in Atlanta.

Jay Ray:

So there's actually two of them.

Jay Ray:

There's Limp Records and Rowdy Records, and they are both Dallas Austin records.

Jay Ray:

They kind of do different things.

Jay Ray:

Right.

Jay Ray:

So Rowdy has Monica and it has some other joints over there, but Limp is

Jay Ray:

kind of the, the alternative label.

Jay Ray:

Um, and that alternative label, quote unquote, signs an artist named Joi, who's

Jay Ray:

literally the princess of the South.

Jay Ray:

Like Joi is the, the, the member of the Dungeon family.

Jay Ray:

That's kind of like queen of all things, right?

Jay Ray:

Tennessee Slim.

Jay Ray:

Shout out like for real.

Jay Ray:

So no shade.

Jay Ray:

So many artists that we love literally are doing what Joi was doing in like 1993.

Jay Ray:

Gap.

Jay Ray:

Joi was in Gap ads with the blonde, uh, short Hair.

Jay Ray:

Joi was wearing that top to award shows singing her.

Jay Ray:

Face off, like she was that groundbreaking.

Jay Ray:

So she releases an album, um, uh, uh, in that period of the

Jay Ray:

pendulum vibe, which includes a song that she wrote called Freedom.

Jay Ray:

Well.

Jay Ray:

That song gets, 'cause Dallas, Austin is a producing for the soundtrack,

Jay Ray:

the, the, the Panthers soundtrack, not Black Panther Panther, which

Jay Ray:

I think is directed by Mario Van Peebles, if I'm remembering correctly.

Jay Ray:

And.

Jay Ray:

He pulls that Joi track.

Jay Ray:

So Joi is actually on the song.

Jay Ray:

So you just get to see Joi in the video, but that song

Jay Ray:

transforms into an R&B posse.

Jay Ray:

Cut.

Jay Ray:

But there's something unique about this Sir Daniel, that you reminded

Jay Ray:

me about with this song specifically.

Jay Ray:

So just real.

Jay Ray:

So let's talk about freedom as the The posse cut.

Sir Daniel:

So freedom, as you said, turns into an R&B posse.

Sir Daniel:

Cut.

Sir Daniel:

And when I tell you it's the video I can see, I still see the video.

Sir Daniel:

To this day, it's black and white.

Sir Daniel:

It's a tight closeup on Coco from SWV, and SWV is in the video.

Sir Daniel:

Each and every R&B Black R&B female Soloist and group

Sir Daniel:

is featured in this video.

Sir Daniel:

If you were on a, even the ones that were on the come up,

Sir Daniel:

were featured in this video.

Sir Daniel:

Vanessa Williams, SWV, um, uh uh ooh.

Sir Daniel:

Changing Faces,

Jay Ray:

faces, Aaliyah, I think was theirs.

Sir Daniel:

TLC, any, every, and anybody you can think of

Sir Daniel:

is featured in this video.

Sir Daniel:

And so the song, the video comes out, the song comes out, and

Sir Daniel:

we're like, oh, this is cool.

Sir Daniel:

This is fly.

Sir Daniel:

Let's go see Panther.

Sir Daniel:

But we're not done in the words, the famous words of KRS when we're not

Jay Ray:

We're not done.

Sir Daniel:

We're not done yet.

Sir Daniel:

They flip this song, this squarely R&B song into a rap posse.

Sir Daniel:

Cut and, and it starts off.

Sir Daniel:

The funny thing about this, it says all this rappers, but the song is anchored by.

Sir Daniel:

Patra

Jay Ray:

yeah,

Sir Daniel:

who is, who is literally the queen of dancehall music, where

Sir Daniel:

dancehall has had its own come up in the early nineties and is now mainstream.

Sir Daniel:

Patra is leading the pack, is the queen of the pack.

Jay Ray:

the pack.

Sir Daniel:

Quite frank, quite literally, of, um, female DJs out of

Sir Daniel:

Jamaica doing, um, dance hall music in a pop in a mainstream type of way.

Sir Daniel:

She anchors this song, but this song features opens up with Queen Latifah

Jay Ray:

Mm-hmm.

Sir Daniel:

who, uh, at this point is the megastar here in the, in the, in the Cut.

Sir Daniel:

Queen Latifah, Yo-Yo, MC Lyte, Nefertiti, who.

Jay Ray:

Shout out to Nefertiti.

Sir Daniel:

Salt-N-Pepa, and Left Eye.

Sir Daniel:

Left Eye, like to your form, to your points earlier is like getting all

Sir Daniel:

these looks on these different songs.

Sir Daniel:

'cause she's coming up and, you know, there's all these

Sir Daniel:

rumors about her breaking soul.

Sir Daniel:

But anyway, this song snaps because not only is it.

Sir Daniel:

Very capable MCs on here.

Sir Daniel:

The, the beat is stripped down as it has been in all of these songs that we're

Sir Daniel:

talking about has been stripped back so that they can, um, do their rapping thing.

Sir Daniel:

Um, but it's also.

Sir Daniel:

Very black.

Sir Daniel:

It's very, um, speaking to the times, it's speaking to the times of the

Sir Daniel:

subject, which is Panther, which a lot of the things that happened

Sir Daniel:

in Panther in the sixties is still happening at that time in the nineties.

Sir Daniel:

And we still have to keep bringing these things forward.

Sir Daniel:

And so not only are they, they're not even talking about

Sir Daniel:

how nice they are on the mic or.

Sir Daniel:

How much money they got.

Sir Daniel:

There is a very specific and a very intentional message in this

Sir Daniel:

song, and these women are speaking to the ills and the plights of the

Sir Daniel:

community and how they as women, the, the, the, the, the caretakers,

Sir Daniel:

the main caretakers, the people that give birth to the generation are.

Sir Daniel:

Suffering not only at the, it's easy to put it at the hands of

Sir Daniel:

black men, but they're suffering from institutional racism as well.

Sir Daniel:

And so they're saying, Hey, listen, I'm, I'm standing next to you, brother.

Sir Daniel:

I want to fight with you, which is what the women in Panther did is

Sir Daniel:

they fought next to these brothers, and so they brought it to this song.

Sir Daniel:

If you have never heard it, if you have never watched a

Sir Daniel:

video, do yourself a favor.

Sir Daniel:

I'm pretty certain you'll be able to, we'll be linking these videos.

Sir Daniel:

To this, um, conversation.

Sir Daniel:

You gotta open, you gotta, um, hip yourself to, um, to freedom On the

Sir Daniel:

Panther soundtrack, um, originally produced by Dallas Austin, but there's

Sir Daniel:

a fly, fly ass Diamond D remix as well that um, really brings it to you.

Sir Daniel:

And so this song, I think was the perfect way to round out this conversation about.

Sir Daniel:

Posse cuts by none, by nothing but women MCs, it, it, they exist.

Sir Daniel:

Y'all, they really do exist, and you just have to go and find them.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, and, and, and I think not only do these songs exist, we've talked

Jay Ray:

about this before on the show, but I think one of the things that this underscores

Jay Ray:

specifically is that women in hip hop have a history of when they get together.

Jay Ray:

It's uplifting, right?

Jay Ray:

They are really trying to send a message to society.

Jay Ray:

To the black community that, to your point you mentioned like that, that

Jay Ray:

caretaking right to the community that they're caretaking for, to the men

Jay Ray:

that they're often in relationship with that are also like struggling.

Jay Ray:

Um, but also recognizing that like, yo, I'm with my sis and we are about

Jay Ray:

to like body this thing together.

Jay Ray:

Like there is.

Jay Ray:

This beautiful ability to embody the hard and soft that I've always found

Jay Ray:

in women MCs, that's completely unique.

Jay Ray:

Men typically have to do one thing, whereas the women can be like, ah,

Jay Ray:

I can walk this line a little bit.

Jay Ray:

I could be a little bit of this, and a little bit of that.

Jay Ray:

And all of these posse cuts, I think, uh uh uh uh, show that where you

Jay Ray:

get all of these different vibes.

Jay Ray:

But to your point, at this point in time.

Jay Ray:

And this is a very specific point in time.

Jay Ray:

These women had to, they had to, they had to show up and, and

Jay Ray:

prove, 'cause you had to rap then.

Jay Ray:

Before we get outta here, sir Daniel, I do want to ask a question.

Jay Ray:

You, you mentioned this earlier, that we were gonna talk about this.

Jay Ray:

Why do you think this doesn't happen today?

Jay Ray:

From your perspective?

Jay Ray:

Why don't we have more women posse cuts or just posse cuts in general?

Jay Ray:

'cause quite frankly, you either in the crew.

Jay Ray:

Or you not, or we not doing it together?

Jay Ray:

I, we do see a little bit of it, but not really.

Sir Daniel:

Yeah.

Sir Daniel:

It's, um, there are multiple factors as to why these things don't happen

Sir Daniel:

anymore, specifically with women.

Sir Daniel:

Um, there's always been, for whatever reason, this weird fear, uh.

Sir Daniel:

Especially from the industry standpoint, this has been weird fear of having the

Sir Daniel:

women play with each other on the same, on the same track, or just in general?

Sir Daniel:

They typically kept, especially in hip hop, if you listen to interviews,

Sir Daniel:

a lot of the women will tell you they kept the, the women separat.

Sir Daniel:

They kept them separated on tours.

Sir Daniel:

They kept them a away from each other.

Sir Daniel:

They kept them.

Sir Daniel:

It's, it's so weird when you think about it, like they'll talk about being

Sir Daniel:

sequestered to their tour buses and their hotel rooms and not being able to, to

Sir Daniel:

socialize with each other, except when, you know, I think it might've been Queen

Sir Daniel:

Latifah was like, nah, I'm, you know.

Sir Daniel:

Me and Monie are hanging out.

Sir Daniel:

And then, you know, they, they, they, they hang out with other

Sir Daniel:

people on tours and they get to know salt and pepper, salt and pepper.

Sir Daniel:

Talk about this a lot.

Sir Daniel:

How they felt alienated, how they felt like nobody liked them, but, and that

Sir Daniel:

was by design to, for whatever weird reason the industry wanted to do that.

Sir Daniel:

And then now when we fast forward to, to today, the systematic racism.

Sir Daniel:

It's everywhere.

Sir Daniel:

Systematic racism is in our music.

Sir Daniel:

It's in the boardrooms, it's in the corporations that are take,

Sir Daniel:

have taken over hip hop that really don't want any kind of, uh, unity

Sir Daniel:

or anything that will cause you to think or, or to have any kind of.

Sir Daniel:

Thoughts, period.

Sir Daniel:

That could, that could, um, be deemed as something that will spark a revolution,

Sir Daniel:

a personal revolution, and a revolution amongst black people specifically.

Sir Daniel:

So there are reasons why you don't hear that anymore.

Sir Daniel:

There's a reason why Meg Thee Stallion and Nicki Minaj were on a

Sir Daniel:

song together, but a couple months down the line, they're beefing.

Sir Daniel:

That's on purpose.

Sir Daniel:

That's done on purpose.

Sir Daniel:

That's why you'll only hear Gorilla and a Cardi Gorilla and

Sir Daniel:

a Meg, they'll never have it.

Sir Daniel:

Or Meg and Cardi, they'll never have more than two on a song.

Sir Daniel:

It's a feature.

Sir Daniel:

It's all about money.

Sir Daniel:

And the so if it's not economically going to make money for them, nobody has

Sir Daniel:

interest in putting together posse cuts.

Sir Daniel:

So, um, to, or, or anything that symbolizes unity within

Sir Daniel:

the hip hop community.

Jay Ray:

You know, it's so interesting 'cause I, I really do

Jay Ray:

think a lot of this, to your point, it does come down to like money.

Jay Ray:

Now I don't know this to be true.

Jay Ray:

Somebody has probably talked about this, but I always got the sense, especially

Jay Ray:

in the nineties, right, people was always jumping on somebody's joint.

Jay Ray:

A lot of them folks ain't had, you know, there wasn't a budget

Jay Ray:

for you to be like, oh, I'm a pay

Jay Ray:

Brat, you know what I'm saying?

Jay Ray:

To be on the song, unless you, you had the budget like that, but

Jay Ray:

sometimes it's like, no, you my girl.

Jay Ray:

Like, I'm gonna hop on the song.

Jay Ray:

I'm gonna get my writing credit.

Jay Ray:

It's all good.

Jay Ray:

We just about to do this thing.

Jay Ray:

Right.

Jay Ray:

I do wonder.

Jay Ray:

Go ahead.

Sir Daniel:

No.

Sir Daniel:

I go, no, finish your thought because I can't, I almost, I can't believe

Sir Daniel:

we almost forgot this, but Go ahead.

Sir Daniel:

Finish your thought.

Sir Daniel:

I'm gonna write it down.

Jay Ray:

I think so much of the, the issue comes down to just like playing

Jay Ray:

economics of just like, I can't afford to pay so and so to, to be on the song

Jay Ray:

because they this big and they cost this much, you know what I'm saying?

Jay Ray:

To be a feature, you know what I'm saying?

Jay Ray:

On the song and, and all of that.

Jay Ray:

And there's just that, that the love is missing, you know, of just like,

Jay Ray:

no, I think, I think they dope.

Jay Ray:

And they need to, and I need to be on a song with them.

Jay Ray:

Let's make that happen.

Jay Ray:

Like how do we make happen that I'm on a song with them because they

Jay Ray:

dope and me and them being dope together need to do something right.

Jay Ray:

Um, so my hope is that in this new, uh, in the, in the era that we're

Jay Ray:

more marching into that, that just that love and that respect comes

Jay Ray:

back for somebody else's craft.

Jay Ray:

And it's just like.

Jay Ray:

That Unity.

Jay Ray:

I just want to see that again, the fact that we have a song in history

Jay Ray:

that includes Lil Kim and Foxy on the same song, and unfortunately

Jay Ray:

it's the only one because y'all, this almost turned into a project.

Jay Ray:

Can you imagine what that shit would've done had that turned into

Jay Ray:

a project with those two on it?

Jay Ray:

But we didn't get that.

Jay Ray:

That's okay.

Jay Ray:

But we got the no one else remix.

Sir Daniel:

Remix.

Sir Daniel:

So listen, let's stop, let's, let's stay on love for a second.

Sir Daniel:

I can't believe we almost forgot the "Love of My Life"

Jay Ray:

Oh, crap.

Jay Ray:

Angie Stone, Queen Latifah

Sir Daniel:

Angie Stone and Bahamadia.

Jay Ray:

Yo, and that is so fun.

Jay Ray:

Listen.

Sir Daniel:

2003.

Sir Daniel:

It's, it is really paying homage to, to Angie Stone's, um,

Sir Daniel:

groundbreaking group, The Sequence.

Sir Daniel:

Ha, how could we have forgotten that?

Sir Daniel:

Because it's a, it's an homage to, um, "Funk You Up", which was

Sir Daniel:

their, which was their big, big hit.

Sir Daniel:

Single.

Sir Daniel:

So shout out to Erykah Badu for gathering Queen Latifah and Angie

Sir Daniel:

Stone and Bahamadia on the same track, uh, for the love of my life.

Sir Daniel:

Remix.

Sir Daniel:

I can't believe we almost forgot that because that, and

Sir Daniel:

then they took that on tour.

Sir Daniel:

The Sugar Water Festival.

Sir Daniel:

We could have had more of those.

Sir Daniel:

To your point about, we almost had the Thelma and Louise record,

Sir Daniel:

but Kim and Fox Brown, who knows what that could have turned into.

Sir Daniel:

You know, the, the, they had white people had Lilith fear.

Sir Daniel:

Who knows what black people, black women could have had if

Sir Daniel:

there was a little more love

Jay Ray:

Mm-hmm.

Sir Daniel:

and a little less systematic racism pumped into the industry.

Jay Ray:

Yeah, so the Sugar Water Festival, Queen Latifah, Erykah Badu,

Jay Ray:

Jill Scott, who was coming up, Jill Scott wasn't the Jill Scott we know today.

Jay Ray:

Then, um, and Flo Tree was on that tour.

Jay Ray:

There was so many amazing women.

Jay Ray:

So, yes.

Jay Ray:

What could have been so w.

Sir Daniel:

have had it all.

Jay Ray:

Could have had it all.

Jay Ray:

And I think giving, um, hopefully y'all have listened to Queue Points

Jay Ray:

and if there are any music folks listening to this, give the women

Jay Ray:

their time to shine together.

Jay Ray:

Like just let 'em loose on, on the thing.

Jay Ray:

See what comes outta that thing thing.

Jay Ray:

'cause something dopes gonna come out of it.

Jay Ray:

But we thank y'all because hanging out with us as we reminisced about for

Jay Ray:

Women's History Month on, uh, posse Cuts, uh, in hip hop featuring the

Jay Ray:

ladies, just all the ladies on it.

Jay Ray:

Um.

Jay Ray:

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Jay Ray:

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Jay Ray:

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Jay Ray:

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Jay Ray:

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Jay Ray:

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Jay Ray:

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Sir Daniel:

We absolutely do and like I always say in

Sir Daniel:

this life, you have a choice.

Sir Daniel:

You can either pick up the needle or you could let the record play.

Sir Daniel:

I am DJ Sir Daniel.

Jay Ray:

My name is Jay Ray Young.

Sir Daniel:

And this has been Queue Points podcast, dropping

Sir Daniel:

the needle on black music history.

Sir Daniel:

We will see you on the next go round.

Sir Daniel:

And do the ladies run this?

Jay Ray:

Hell

Sir Daniel:

yeah.

Jay Ray:

Yeah.

Jay Ray:

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DJ Sir Daniel is a DJ/Selector and part of Atlanta's, all-vinyl crew, Wax Fundamentals. Co-host of the Queue Points podcast, he is an advocate for DJ culture and is passionate about creating atmospheres of inclusivity and jubilation from a Black perspective.

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Johnnie Ray Kornegay III (Jay Ray) is a podcast consultant and co-host and producer of Queue Points, the Ambie Award-nominated podcast that drops the needle on Black music history. In addition to his duties at Queue Points, he is the Deputy Director of Strategy and Impact for CNP (Counter Narrative Project). A photographer, creative consultant and social commentator, Jay Ray's work is centered around a commitment to telling full and honest stories about communities often ignored.